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    Quote Originally Posted by Koldan View Post
    Google ffxivalexander and ff xiv cactbot. You dont need to go dark places, its all in a plain sight, what are you even talking about. Those tools even explain how they work.
    ffxivalexander repository even explains how you can turn it into outright cheat tool.
    I'm aware of alexander and cactbot. And also that people have literally no idea how the cactbot one works, since it's exactly the same as putting the numbers into an external website. My question was referring to the person claiming there are pvp tools for automatic holmgang and such, and I'm seeing he's not providing any examples, which further confirms my belief that it is a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I'm aware of alexander and cactbot. And also that people have literally no idea how the cactbot one works, since it's exactly the same as putting the numbers into an external website. My question was referring to the person claiming there are pvp tools for automatic holmgang and such, and I'm seeing he's not providing any examples, which further confirms my belief that it is a lie.
    So because you haven’t seen it, it is a lie? You are stretching. They do exist. You can search for them yourself. I am currently not playing the game because I don’t play on days i work. I already said i would start recording for you, but because I don’t sit and actively record my gameplay just in case a forum dweller wants to argue, i must be lying. Mhm. I said I’ll get them on the weekend. Or idk, you could hit up YouTube

    Edit: a quick google search took me to a site with pvp bots available. But i have to register to access them. Fortunately i am not registered. Maybe you can take a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I don't suppose you have any examples? Video proof, name of the tool, literally anything other then just taking your word for it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    You claimed there was documented video proof already, surely it's not that difficult to find some already existing proof hmm?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgAzp_yp16U
    Keeps running full speed despite being heavied and bound.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/452580-Hackers-still-rampant-despite-multiple-reports-Please-give-visibility-on-this.
    A Forum thread where people discuss their experience with cheaters in PVP.

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/aae705d4b111c011d917da13916bd640829c1ae9
    The Dev team banned free trial accounts from participating in PVP due to cheaters on free trial accounts.

    And one google search of PVP mods and I found a website (which I will not link for obvious reasons). Doesn't exist, though, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    And one google search of PVP mods and I found a website (which I will not link for obvious reasons). Doesn't exist, though, right?
    I literally googled PvP mods and went to the plugins discord. The things I saw:
    1. a UI customization, so the colour is similar to the UI style of PvP content.
    2. that's it.

    The website you've found is just a place where people search for mods in other games, and it's not even a popular place for FFXIV playebase that are interested in that.


    Again,
    bots =/= mods, plugins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgAzp_yp16U
    Keeps running full speed despite being heavied and bound.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/452580-Hackers-still-rampant-despite-multiple-reports-Please-give-visibility-on-this.
    A Forum thread where people discuss their experience with cheaters in PVP.

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/aae705d4b111c011d917da13916bd640829c1ae9
    The Dev team banned free trial accounts from participating in PVP due to cheaters on free trial accounts.

    And one google search of PVP mods and I found a website (which I will not link for obvious reasons). Doesn't exist, though, right?
    See, you're already light years ahead of the other poster whose just ranting and raving like a lunatic. Thanks! I'd argue there is a world of difference between the sanitized and moderated plugins most people use, and actual full on hacks. I thought we were referring to the former in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    I literally googled PvP mods and went to the plugins discord. The things I saw:
    1. a UI customization, so the colour is similar to the UI style of PvP content.
    2. that's it.

    The website you've found is just a place where people search for mods in other games, and it's not even a popular place for FFXIV playebase that are interested in that.


    Again,
    bots =/= mods, plugins.
    How do you know what website I am looking at, as I cannot mention the name? The one I see has only FFXIV mods. And these people using the mods are not always automated. Not getting affected by crowd-control isn't botting. It's a mod. But go off, I guess.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    See, you're already light years ahead of the other poster whose just ranting and raving like a lunatic. Thanks! I'd argue there is a world of difference between the sanitized and moderated plugins most people use, and actual full on hacks. I thought we were referring to the former in this thread?
    How are they ranting and raving "like a lunatic" for simply telling you that more exists than what is in your bubble? And just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it is imaginary? From what I see, the only one acting as a "lunatic" is you, with your condesceding attitude and sense of self-righteousness.
    I've participated in a lot of threads that Kolaina has, and I've seen them mention a few times that they post on their phone. It is not an easy feat to share links on the mobile site. I simply provided the evidence you were too lazy to look up yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I don't suppose you have any examples? Video proof, name of the tool, literally anything other then just taking your word for it?
    Visit any thread about bots in pvp. But now I’ll start saving gameplay when I play on weekends because rolder50 denies that there are cheaters in pvp when clearly there are cheaters in the core game. Must be core exclusive. Pvp is safe from cheats and mods. Makes sense…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Visit any thread about bots in pvp. But now I’ll start saving gameplay when I play on weekends because rolder50 denies that there are cheaters in pvp when clearly there are cheaters in the core game. Must be core exclusive. Pvp is safe from cheats and mods. Makes sense…
    Quote Originally Posted by Koldan View Post
    Google ffxivalexander and ff xiv cactbot. You dont need to go dark places, its all in a plain sight, what are you even talking about. Those tools even explain how they work.
    ffxivalexander repository even explains how you can turn it into outright cheat tool.
    I think you two are confused. Bots have NOTHING to do with mods or plugins. Cactbot, although seem as a crutch (I agree), has little to do with cheating (how cheating exists in a content that literally has no competition? anyway). And xivalexander is mostly for double-weaving if you have awful ping and learning japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    I think you two are confused. Bots have NOTHING to do with mods or plugins. Cactbot, although seem as a crutch (I agree), has little to do with cheating (how cheating exists in a content that literally has no competition? anyway). And xivalexander is mostly for double-weaving if you have awful ping and learning japanese.
    I wasnt talking bots (tho they are a thing). I was talking functionality that cant be accessible in normal unmodded game. Like removing animation lock which is built in into the game or shit "showing you where A/S rank is as soon as it spawns, showing who pulled it and other stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post


    Does this include the evidence that no one can even see, or...?
    You mean the links they provided? Willfully ignorant or willfully instigating?
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