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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They don't need invasive monitoring software to punish people if they're doing things that are blatantly impossible and easily observable.

    Granted, this particular instance is really harmless, but I don't think it's necessarily something they should be allowing to slide if someone does decide to report it as it would be actively refusing to enforce the ToS.
    Chances are they don't let it slide if someone reports it.

    The catch with SE's enforcement has always been available evidence. If someone mentions they use a parser (or visual mods or whatever else) in chat, and someone reports, they'll get in trouble. If they only talk about it in discord, nothing happens. But as you say, for this particular mod it's easily visible in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Chances are they don't let it slide if someone reports it.

    The catch with SE's enforcement has always been available evidence. If someone mentions they use a parser (or visual mods or whatever else) in chat, and someone reports, they'll get in trouble. If they only talk about it in discord, nothing happens. But as you say, for this particular mod it's easily visible in game.
    Ive met some people on my NA alt who do ledge sitting in limsa as a big group publicly since like 2017 or so, to this day they still play, ud expect with how pissy people get theyd get reported a lot but nothing in years for them.
    As long as they dont harm others and such SE could easily brush it aside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathona View Post
    Ive met some people on my NA alt who do ledge sitting in limsa as a big group publicly since like 2017 or so, to this day they still play, ud expect with how pissy people get theyd get reported a lot but nothing in years for them.
    As long as they dont harm others and such SE could easily brush it aside.
    There's also the possibility that they've glitched themselves on using ingame methods. Which is possible.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    There's also the possibility that they've glitched themselves on using ingame methods. Which is possible.
    I asked them how they do it, and its the method this thread was made for xD
    Everyone sees them doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They don't need invasive monitoring software to punish people if they're doing things that are blatantly impossible and easily observable.

    Granted, this particular instance is really harmless, but I don't think it's necessarily something they should be allowing to slide if someone does decide to report it as it would be actively refusing to enforce the ToS.
    Hard disagree. I see so many people abusing afk bypass, and no matter how many reports go their way, there isn't anything done. Some sort of monitoring may be overdue.
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    @ OP

    I agree, cheats and mods should not be allowed in this game, I know they can replace entire bodies with NSFW models, to say the least.

    How does it affect me?. They can make my characters naked, and every other character at that; They can attach excessively large dongs to female characters and even though I wouldn't see it inside my game I know other players using such mods will be seeing what they shouldn't.

    Besides that, allowing mods in this game might give the developers an excuse to "not upgrade the graphics", since others are doing half-as*ed jobs with their custom models.

    Finally, on the business side, by allowing mods SE is letting players use paid optional items like Korean outfits without buying them, they just swap files and done.

    I will welcome anything SE can do to avoid mods and cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    @ OP

    I agree, cheats and mods should not be allowed in this game, I know they can replace entire bodies with NSFW models, to say the least.

    How does it affect me?. They can make my characters naked, and every other character at that; They can attach excessively large dongs to female characters and even though I wouldn't see it inside my game I know other players using such mods will be seeing what they shouldn't.

    Besides that, allowing mods in this game might give the developers an excuse to "not upgrade the graphics", since others are doing half-as*ed jobs with their custom models.

    Finally, on the business side, by allowing mods SE is letting players use paid optional items like Korean outfits without buying them, they just swap files and done.

    I will welcome anything SE can do to avoid mods and cheating.
    The excuse I've seen everywhere is that they won't upgrade the graphics is bc of ps4 users- it would leave them out so which excuse is it now again? Modders making the game look more desirable for themselves so it makes you mad?

    You have to go out of your way to find modded screens of XIV

    And you're talking like the entire modding community only use nude mods. With that kind of assumption, I can do & say anything about any community now

    90% of them just want new hairstyles & better face models/ fix Viera issues that xiv devs won't- Why do you think that is? Are you going to blame modders for that? is someone else going to blame PS4 limitations?

    On the business side, if people are swapping paid optional outfits bc these things have been asked for & it's nowhere in sight for folks to purchase..... I guess it's bc SE doesn't care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    The excuse I've seen everywhere is that they won't upgrade the graphics is bc of ps4 users- it would leave them out so which excuse is it now again? Modders making the game look more desirable for themselves so it makes you mad?

    You have to go out of your way to find modded screens of XIV

    And you're talking like the entire modding community only use nude mods. With that kind of assumption, I can do & say anything about any community now

    90% of them just want new hairstyles & better face models/ fix Viera issues that xiv devs won't- Why do you think that is? Are you going to blame modders for that? is someone else going to blame PS4 limitations?

    On the business side, if people are swapping paid optional outfits bc these things have been asked for & it's nowhere in sight for folks to purchase..... I guess it's bc SE doesn't care?
    You must miss that the Director said they would like to overhaul or update the graphics, but they wanted to launch Endwalker first and will look into it in 2022. However, that will most likely be on hold till they open more servers

    Now even with a update there still people going to mod and want to change hairstyles or tweak facial features..... so the rest of your post is a bit moot on that part
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zileth View Post
    You must miss that the Director said they would like to overhaul or update the graphics, but they wanted to launch Endwalker first and will look into it in 2022. However, that will most likely be on hold till they open more servers

    Now even with a update there still people going to mod and want to change hairstyles or tweak facial features..... so the rest of your post is a bit moot on that part
    I didn't miss it
    I wasn't ACTUALLY blaming ps4 players - go back & read my post slowly
    - And people are going to change hairstyles & tweak facial features due to a lack of variety available in game
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    @ OP

    I agree, cheats and mods should not be allowed in this game, I know they can replace entire bodies with NSFW models, to say the least.

    How does it affect me?. They can make my characters naked, and every other character at that; They can attach excessively large dongs to female characters and even though I wouldn't see it inside my game I know other players using such mods will be seeing what they shouldn't.

    Besides that, allowing mods in this game might give the developers an excuse to "not upgrade the graphics", since others are doing half-as*ed jobs with their custom models.

    Finally, on the business side, by allowing mods SE is letting players use paid optional items like Korean outfits without buying them, they just swap files and done.

    I will welcome anything SE can do to avoid mods and cheating.
    I am imagining your character naked right now and there is nothing you can do to stop me! Hell I could commission an artist to draw your character naked. Welcome to not being able to control what other people do. Amazed you have not realized you are not the god of the universe before this point.
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