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    Apeachs's Avatar
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    Ari Santa
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    Bard Lv 90

    Mods and cheat engine

    I see many using the Cheat Engine so they can make their characters sit anywhere they want, even the /doze emote on surfaces. Isn't it time to implement a system so such things can't be used? Also make it so the game files can't be modified.
    And if Square Enix do allow mods, then they also should open the PlayStation for using mods so it's fair for more players.
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    Sathona Jun
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    How does that affect you in a negative way exactly besides "im on PS so i cant do it".

    Mods are a grey area, they dont care as long as you dont harm others, officially they will obviously say to not use them ofc.

    Personally i dont even go through the effort to report ppl ledge sitting cause it doesnt affect my gameplay at all~

    Most importantly, Yoshi P doesnt want to get in the way of ur privacy and know what you have installed on ur computer, so hes against anti cheats.

    PS: Ledge sitting should become an actual emote at this point, but alas.
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    The devs have stated they do not want to start running system monitoring software on people's machines.
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    They don't need invasive monitoring software to punish people if they're doing things that are blatantly impossible and easily observable.

    Granted, this particular instance is really harmless, but I don't think it's necessarily something they should be allowing to slide if someone does decide to report it as it would be actively refusing to enforce the ToS.
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    Sigma Alpheratz
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    Faerie
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    @ OP

    I agree, cheats and mods should not be allowed in this game, I know they can replace entire bodies with NSFW models, to say the least.

    How does it affect me?. They can make my characters naked, and every other character at that; They can attach excessively large dongs to female characters and even though I wouldn't see it inside my game I know other players using such mods will be seeing what they shouldn't.

    Besides that, allowing mods in this game might give the developers an excuse to "not upgrade the graphics", since others are doing half-as*ed jobs with their custom models.

    Finally, on the business side, by allowing mods SE is letting players use paid optional items like Korean outfits without buying them, they just swap files and done.

    I will welcome anything SE can do to avoid mods and cheating.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They don't need invasive monitoring software to punish people if they're doing things that are blatantly impossible and easily observable.

    Granted, this particular instance is really harmless, but I don't think it's necessarily something they should be allowing to slide if someone does decide to report it as it would be actively refusing to enforce the ToS.
    Chances are they don't let it slide if someone reports it.

    The catch with SE's enforcement has always been available evidence. If someone mentions they use a parser (or visual mods or whatever else) in chat, and someone reports, they'll get in trouble. If they only talk about it in discord, nothing happens. But as you say, for this particular mod it's easily visible in game.
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    Hey look, it's this thread again.
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    It isn't hurting you

    if you want cool things get a PC
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Oh no, people are allowed to do things in their game that only affect them and what they see, what a tragedy

    People doing things on their own computer that make them happy but don't affect anyone else shouldn't be allowed, and obviously we need to put a stop to people enjoying the game in anything but a vanilla setting
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    Watching forum drama be like

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    Eriane Elis
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    They just need to figure out something for PvP, other than that it's not a big deal. People don't normally cheat or use cheat engines outside of PvP unless you count RMT bots that grind all day. In which case, report those players directly (not report as RMT) and let the GMs do whatever GMs do. But you do realize OP that you can jump to certain spots without actually using any kind of third party tool right? People can't modify game files and said game files be shown to you as another player. If someone were to say patch their game with a texture mod, you won't see this mod, it would be a serious security issue if that could happen. It doesn't. When you see players dozing on top of a pole, it's because they jumped there from somewhere. I've done it plenty of times when I was bored. The game encourages you to go explore and try things like that, there are sightseeing and achievements tied to this. Sometimes you can glitch through walls because the internet skipped a beat. I once fell through the floor of a dungeon to my death, it was funny.

    So no, most people don't use tools to position hack themselves, they just do it the old fashion way by jumping there. But even if they don't, it doesn't affect you. Pretend it's a bethesda game and it's a normal day. lool Okay joking aside, I don't want SE to install spyware onto people's computer. But they DO need to figure out how to fix PvP and features like skybuilder botting. I'm so thankful I got the saint title when there were so many bots. The worst part is that it was painfully obvious that they were bots, I'm not sure if they were banned or not but it was a big deal at the time.
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