[Spoiler] Isn't Dark Knight using Akasa ?

[Denishia]

Sure, I understand the fear that everything and every enemy going forward is going to be explained via dynamis instead of aether because here's our new hot plot macguffin - but it's yet to be a factor in the Pandaemonion raids, and it feels like a useful additive retcon instead of subtractive.

When 7.0 comes out and all the new added skills for all of the jobs have in their tool tips dynamis instead of aether, feel free to say 'I Told You So'.

The point about new zones and areas in the map are a good one; FFXIV is generally very good about revisiting old lore and places instead of abandoning them for the new thing. Like the primals, they will often re-contextualize and add to with additive retcons, but that's in part because this is a MMO.

[Cleretic]

The point about new zones and areas in the map are a good one; FFXIV is generally very good about revisiting old lore and places instead of abandoning them for the new thing. Like the primals, they will often re-contextualize and add to with additive retcons, but that's in part because this is a MMO.

Spoken like someone who definitely wasn't super invested in Gelmorra or Silvertear Lake. They do drop interesting setting hooks sometimes, it's just that it's more often 'quietly file a side thing back into nonexistence' rather than 'yeah this big thing is no longer a thing anymore'.

I just want to point out this was originally a thread about how dynamis could be intregrated into the story as a concept and how it could maybe be applied to old lore retroactively, for people who are interested in the subject.

And it has quickly devolved into people coming in and saying "actually dynamis is shitty writing and I do not like it". You're free to have that opinion, but it is a shame it has completely overshadowed the original point of the thread.

Honestly, the lore subforum's had a lot of that going on lately, a few people consistently stomping into discussion about any part of the story they don't like, going 'IT BAD' and derailing the entire discussion. I'm getting rather tired of it, because I really am ready for a good talk about what was actually laid out.

[RyuDragnier]

I'm getting rather tired of it, because I really am ready for a good talk about what was actually laid out.

Same here, it's getting real old real quick. I've almost put several posters in these subforums on ignore, something I've never had the urge or wanted to do before now. I don't like that it's getting to this level either, it's reaching the point to where I see certain posters and want to just instantly disregard anything they state, which isn't healthy for discussion of lore.

[Iscah]

Likewise, it's never definitively stated what Elidibus uses to power his Limit Breaks. There is, however, this unresolved bit of dialogue from your showdown with him (Hope's Confluence):

What of it?! I have my mission! I am Elidibus! And it is my duty to steer mankind and the very star upon their true course. This I swore to... to someone. We spoke, and I swore... what? What did I...?

Ah, poor old amnesic Elidibus. I really can't help but wonder if his Warrior of Light, his summoning magicks, and his 'Limit Breaks' all draw inspiration from a certain chance encounter on Elpis, countless years before. I'll laugh if he makes that promise after discovering the cause of the terrible cry from within the earth that set off the Final Days. Perhaps in a place in the depths with lots of Creation magic.

I'm not sure that adds up. The promise he's struggling to remember simply seems to be the vow he would have given when he joined the Convocation, except his memory has failed to the point he can't even remember them.

As for the Warrior of Light, we were specifically told in 5.3 that the incarnation Elidibus drew on is a Vrandtine legend - likely a previous life of Ardbert's soul-shard. That legend is the idea that Elidibus is manipulating everyone into thinking about and then drawing strength from their faith, so it makes sense that his "primal born of that faith" takes the form of their collective mental image of the hero.

[Cilia]

Honestly, the lore subforum's had a lot of that going on lately, a few people consistently stomping into discussion about any part of the story they don't like, going 'IT BAD' and derailing the entire discussion. I'm getting rather tired of it, because I really am ready for a good talk about what was actually laid out.

On topic... I concur that DRK, WAR, and DNC may be manipulating dynamis to some extent, though I'd caution against saying it's absolutely true. The only thing I can say for certain is (probably) dynamis manipulation is Limit Breaks, since those are implied to be so; the Ancients in Ktisis using Limit Breaks is pretty easily explained as them temporarily pushing back against the lockdown restrictions. (Gameplay and story segregation / integration, amirite?)