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    There is a "Geiko" in Kugane

    I was running around doing the (!) yellow quests in Kugane, and I noticed one of the NPC givers is a geiko (gay-ko) where she is searching for something.
    The word geiko is Kyoto dialect for Geisha.
    So is Kugane based off of Kyoto to some degree?
    Also, the quest "A Geiko for All Seasons" A crafter quest, where you have to make a gift for a famous geiko is more of a nod to it a Kyoto influence.

    The only things I can find is that Kugane is a defunct word for "Gold".

    Any help would be appreciated.
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    I'm sorry I don't know what any of my SAM abilities are called. I just make sure to keep banana up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I'm sorry I don't know what any of my SAM abilities are called. I just make sure to keep banana up.
    Fun fact: Higanbana is the name of a particular poisonous flower associated with the underworld and death. It's also known as the red spider lily.

    So when you're in a certain trial and the boss proclaims "IN DARKNESS BLOOMS THE SPIDER LILY!" she's just politely reminding any SAM in the group to refresh their DoT after the phase transition!
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I'm sorry I don't know what any of my SAM abilities are called. I just make sure to keep banana up.
    I love you LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I'm sorry I don't know what any of my SAM abilities are called. I just make sure to keep banana up.
    And do the three shinies so you can do the big shiny
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    Quote Originally Posted by juicybug View Post
    So is Kugane based off of Kyoto to some degree?


    The amount of parallels you can draw between Hydaelyn and Eurasia is astounding, not just in culture or appearance, but in geographical location.

    Kugane/Koshu <> Kyoto/Japan: Same appearance, similar cultural identity, same general geography.
    Doma <> China: Similar appearance, similar cultural identity, same general geography.
    Azim Steppe <> Mongolia: Do I even need to explain?
    Thavnair <> India: Similar cultural identity, similar general geography.
    Ilsabard <> Eastern Europe: Similar cultural identity, same general geography. Plus, I can draw comparisons to WWII :^)
    Aldenard <> Western Europe: Same general geography, similar (by a stretch) cultural identity. Also feeds into eurocentrism.
    Old Sharlayan <> Great Britain: Two nations that make colonies, hoard resources, and get isolationist when things go south? Say it aint so

    Is this intentional? Maybe, but you aren't in the wrong for drawing the connection between Kugane and Kyoto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post


    The amount of parallels you can draw between Hydaelyn and Eurasia is astounding, not just in culture or appearance, but in geographical location.

    Kugane/Koshu <> Kyoto/Japan: Same appearance, similar cultural identity, same general geography.
    Doma <> China: Similar appearance, similar cultural identity, same general geography.
    Azim Steppe <> Mongolia: Do I even need to explain?
    Thavnair <> India: Similar cultural identity, similar general geography.
    Ilsabard <> Eastern Europe: Similar cultural identity, same general geography. Plus, I can draw comparisons to WWII :^)
    Aldenard <> Western Europe: Same general geography, similar (by a stretch) cultural identity. Also feeds into eurocentrism.
    Old Sharlayan <> Great Britain: Two nations that make colonies, hoard resources, and get isolationist when things go south? Say it aint so

    Is this intentional? Maybe, but you aren't in the wrong for drawing the connection between Kugane and Kyoto.
    Reminds me of the Ragnarok Global Project
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    Doma <> China: Similar appearance, similar cultural identity, same general geography.
    Many of these might be right, but to say that Doma is "culturally similar to China" feels a tad close to the level of calling all East Asians Chinese.

    They have ninjas, samurai, Japanese names and clothing and even worship Kami with Japanese names. At most the region of Yanxia sounds Chinese. I'd say it's a heavily leaning towards Japan mix of both at best. Wouldn't be surprised if there were some aspects of other cultures from the region as well.

    Not an expert though, so if somebody is more familiar with the cultures, then feel free to correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Many of these might be right, but to say that Doma is "culturally similar to China" feels a tad close to the level of calling all East Asians Chinese.

    They have ninjas, samurai, Japanese names and clothing and even worship Kami with Japanese names. At most the region of Yanxia sounds Chinese. I'd say it's a heavily leaning towards Japan mix of both at best. Wouldn't be surprised if there were some aspects of other cultures from the region as well.

    Not an expert though, so if somebody is more familiar with the cultures, then feel free to correct.
    You'll find in real life that the whole east-Asian area spent a lot of time borrowing from eachother's cultures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    You'll find in real life that the whole east-Asian area spent a lot of time borrowing from eachother's cultures.
    Yea of course, many folk-tale creatures are nearly the same just with different names for example. It's the same for various European cultures influencing each other. However when you see very clearly Japanese-specific elements (samurai, ninjas) and language(every name p much and those aren't too similar between them honestly) and no aspects you'd typically see in Chinese fantasy, then it's pretty weird to call it Chinese rather than Japanese. It's like seeing an obviously Arturian-inspired setting and saying "oh yeah, that's fantasy-France".
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