RDM should get a slight nerf

[dinnertime]

IMO, RDM and SMN are pretty much on par with one another in terms of utility.

They're not. The only comparable thing about them is the Raise and party buff.

People have said this time and again, Phoenix's "utility" is too inconvenient to matter. No one is going to hold onto Phoenix for regens, especially when healers have a plethora of healing tools. It won't make a difference.

Magick Barrier and Radiant Aegis isn't even a fair comparison because Radiant Aegis only affects yourself, not the entire party. If you're going to do that then might as well add BLM's Manawall to the discussion.

[Dyvid]

They're not. The only comparable thing about them is the Raise and party buff.

People have said this time and again, Phoenix's "utility" is too inconvenient to matter. No one is going to hold onto Phoenix for regens, especially when healers have a plethora of healing tools. It won't make a difference.

Magick Barrier and Radiant Aegis isn't even a fair comparison because Radiant Aegis only affects yourself, not the entire party. If you're going to do that then might as well add BLM's Manawall to the discussion.

Healers have a plethora of healing tools and damage mitigation tools, RDM and SMN don't really need these skills anyway. Physical Ranged DPS got damage mitigation tools. None of it will make or break a fight, it's really just a bonus gimme.

Summoner utility is locked behind specific phases. You can’t seriously tell me that rekindle is a real utility. You can use it once every 2 minutes for a 15 second window.

Yea, it is. Design problems aside, Everlasting Flight and Enkindle are considered utility even though it's just luck that raid damage and Phoenix line up. By the by, you can only use Magick Barrier every 2 minutes but it's benefit is commanded rather than luck.

But whatever, if ya'll want to see RDM DPS 10% to 20% lower because of a barrier that's fine with me.