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    Ka'tashi Nunh
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    Beast Tribe xp for 80+ characters feels bad

    So I understand that using beast tribes to level to 90 would not be intended. Some amount of diminishing returns would for sure be expected but right now the flat 1000xp feels really bad.

    I recently leveled all my crafters to 80. I started late in Shadowbringers so I never did much if any of the beast tribes and none of the crafting ones. I was looking forward to doing the dwarf dailies to plug away at the crafters I wasn't using for the role quests. Once I saw it was only 1000xp I don't feel like doing it at all. It feels like a waste of time.

    It's the same with the gathering beast tribes and for reference I can get more xp hitting a level 5 node than completing a daily.

    I know the vendor items should be the reward but we have a lot of jobs to level in this game I don't see how neutering a source of xp was a player friendly move.
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    Last edited by Katashi; 12-31-2021 at 02:48 PM.

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    Gabriel Morgan
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    That's basically how it always is. Beast tribe exp falls off really hard once you are outside the range for it. Crafter/gatherer beast tribes are basically for catching up, not for leveling early in the expansion.
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    I get that. I just feel like there is some value that exists that makes the dailies not a valuable source of xp but also not so little that it makes the beast tribe feel bad to do. 1000xp might as well be nothing.

    Say 3% of a level per daily. That's 9% of a level a day and 11 days of dailies for a level if that was the sole source of xp you grinded. That is not great xp, there are certainly more efficient methods, but it doesn't make the tribe feel like a waste of time either.
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    Last edited by Katashi; 12-31-2021 at 03:03 PM.

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    I mean you could just not do them and not worry about it.
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    R'dehlika Jenma
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    They're Shadowbringers Beast Tribes. Why would you expect them to level you through Endwalker?

    Do Endwalker content.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Next you'll be asking why Ixali don't give better exp.

    Beast tribes are all only relevant to their expansion level ranges. You'll just have to wait for 6.0 beast tribes.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Crafting/gathering beast tribe XP is only intended to remain relevant for the tribe's respective expansion. There's nothing new about that.

    I do understand how it feels out of place considering the combat beast tribe quests don't get the same treatment. The difference is that combat jobs do not get battle leves to use for leveling past HW while crafting and gathering leves are added each expansion.

    Switch to leves. The XP is very good and it does not take long to get everything leveled 80-90, especially if you combine leves with the Studium deliveries and Engineering manuals. I leveled all of mine in about 2 days after finishing MSQ. Two days of beast tribe quests at old XP levels wouldn't have made a noticeable difference.
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    Jules Summers
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    To be honest, I wished they could buff their reputation gains on older content.

    A Realm Reborn beast tribe content are just the stuff I'm dreading to do, due to how slow it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RdehlikaJenma View Post
    They're Shadowbringers Beast Tribes. Why would you expect them to level you through Endwalker?

    Do Endwalker content.
    And yet plenty of 80+ characters running around Bozja (ShB content) gaining XP faster than playing EW content - so not sure that is a good reason, especially given daily beast tribe quests are limited while Bozja is not.

    I don't think it is necessary, but I do feel some XP adjustments are warranted to provide more options such as increasing XP for side quests, X0 level MSQ quests and content (e.g. 50 / 60 / 70 / 80), and stuff like beast tribes with level sync.
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    Last edited by DawnAskham; 01-20-2022 at 11:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnAskham View Post
    And yet plenty of 80+ characters running around Bozja (ShB content) gaining XP faster than playing EW content - so not sure that is a good reason, especially given daily beast tribe quests are limited while Bozja is not.

    I don't think it is necessary, but I do feel some XP adjustments are warranted to provide more options such as increasing XP for side quests, X0 level MSQ quests and content (e.g. 50 / 60 / 70 / 80), and stuff like beast tribes with level sync.
    I agree that XP adjustments should be done for side quests, but I disagree that beast tribe quests from the previous expansion should be increased. They're already "ok" for what they are. Bozja shouldn't be as good as it is (IMO), so I don't feel like comparing to that is fair. I could see previous level content being decent for 80 to 81, but I think that Endwalker content should be the best way to level from 81 to 90. Obviously, once EW Beast Tribe quests come out, they'll be better. But I don't think Bozja should be as good as it is, and I feel like Pixie quests are pretty good considering what they are.
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