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  1. #81
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    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
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    Eristede Kell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    so far from what I've seen in the thread, there's a consensus that there are some serious issues with people either getting easily offended or wanting to be speech police. I don't know how true this is, as i've never been banned despite several attempts to get people talking, but if this is the case, I am very shocked.
    It's not true at all.

    The people who post on the forums are a very self-selecting group, seemingly with a higher proportion of people who display antisocial tendencies that get flagged by other players. I would venture that the vast majority of normal players have never been flagged, banned, or anything, but the minority of players who have tend to put the onus for their antisocial behaviors on others, citing "other people being offended" or "speech police."

    Put another way, not everyone who plays the game knows how to be a person, and the forum is overrepresented by players who don't know how to be people
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  2. #82
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    Yukiko Kurosawa
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    Lamia
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    To be honest.....in other games chat just devolves into "LFG [insert instance here]", "WTS [insert item here]", and gold seller spam. There's not really any genuine conversation save for a few odd moments, and that generally is just political arguments or server drama. Try to start a conversation and get drowned out by seller spam. After playing TBC classic I prefer no chat at all to that lol.
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    Last edited by YukikoKurosawa; 01-01-2022 at 02:48 AM.

  3. #83
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    Eriane_Elis's Avatar
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    Eriane Elis
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Most MMORPGs are pretty silent. The young ones are the ones that talk a lot and tend to roleplay. The rest of us treat it as a single player experience with inner circle of friends that we may do things with occasionally. Free companies are glorified linkshells for the most part. Then there's the fact that there's a lot of snowflakes these days and saying the most mundane thing can "trigger" them. People used to talk more before they changed the rules where triggering someone was a P2P dispute not a bannable offense. So free companies either are for snowflakes or weed them out. Maybe even just don't care anymore and private linkshells are where most people talk. I just avoid talking in public for the most part, there's always a karen somewhere ready to report you for the most idiotic thing.
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  4. #84
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    Sclair0's Avatar
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    Onion Nights
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    In my experience people are very willing to talk when not focusing on duties, they mostly just keep it to party, fc or linkshell chat. Joining a fate group and asking how peoples day is going usually starts up conversation quite quickly. Or just go insane in ultima talking about chi
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  5. #85
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    Irzephaira Ryphaszela
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    "Why is everyone silent in this game?"

    Because we are jrpg protagonists made by a character creator?
    (1)

  6. #86
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    Sindyr Ashreynason
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I often assume this comes down to two things (not counting social nuances that could be present anywhere else on the internet) :

    1) Console players. Keyboards being awkward for them.

    2) "Can't report what isn't said." With how deep the time and effort investment can get on a character, and now notably moderated the game is, the impression I get is that no one wants to risk getting banned, and that contributes to silence. At the end of the day, we do in fact have the "right to remain silent," and this is the best defense for some players I'm sure.
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  7. #87
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Since the new FFXIV rules, I don't argue with people anymore, I ban the incompetents I meet and we don't talk about it anymore, like SE wants me to be just "positively sociable".
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  9. #88
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    Vavil Veneth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    Since the new FFXIV rules, I don't argue with people anymore, I ban the incompetents I meet and we don't talk about it anymore, like SE wants me to be just "positively sociable".
    what are the new rules?
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    what are the new rules?
    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216
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    thank you for the article... but I wish I didn't know about it now. It seems so vague in some parts, that I feel like i'm back to walking on eggshells again. So if I disagree with someone, i'm better off at pretending they said nothing to begin with?
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