Summoner feels really, really dumbed down now

[Madoka]

You have to have an active subscription to post on the forums, why would you have an alt account you don't play but pay to keep active?

[aveyond-dreams]

You have to have an active subscription to post on the forums, why would you have an alt account you don't play but pay to keep active?

Since when do we pay to keep our alts active? This is not FFXI where you have to pay per character.

[Corbeau]

After a week of progging with new-SMN I absolutely love it even though it does feel on the simple side. Really I just want a second set of slightly different primals post-Phoenix, with different movement requirements and options. Let me call down the lightning with Ramuh and I'll never play another class again.

[dinnertime]

Say "DoTs" to scare and upset the Summoner Historians™. It works like a charm!

[Dyvid]

Say "DoTs" to scare and upset the Summoner Historians™. It works like a charm!

Slipstream!!!!

[Aikaal]

Say "DoTs" to scare and upset the Summoner Historians™. It works like a charm!

Bahamut and Phoenix are just a glorified 15 second DoT with extra oGCD buttons.

[Dyvid]

Bahamut and Phoenix are just a glorified 15 second DoT with extra oGCD buttons.

[Kabooa]

Bahamut and Phoenix are just a glorified 15 second DoT with extra oGCD buttons.

Where's that alignment chart for DoTs when you need it...

[SaberMaxwell]

Where's that alignment chart for DoTs when you need it...

Here's the one I found:

[Leiron]

I mean...I get how people who liked the original version of SMN would be disappointed. On the other hand, i feel thematically, it feels more of a Summoner rather than a Warlock esque type magic class.
I do think perhaps they could put the DoTs back in, while simultaneously pulling back some of the potency on the summons.
in this way, there can be some weaving, while also using the summons as the backbone of their upfront damage.