Is Leve EXP Far Too Generous Now?

[Escalon]

I literally leveled all my crafters and gatherers in 1 day from 80 to 90 with a combination of Leves (had 99 saved up), Studium and Collectibles.

Having Penta melded i490 gear helped a LOT, I did not need to even get any crafting or gathering gear till 90 and even then, most of my Penta melded piece's were still better than the un-melded 560 gear.

No wonder the leveling and the Leves were a joke.

[Hasrat]

Leveling Hand/Land has felt pretty fast for a while now, just given how many options there are with massive exp drops. Leves, collectibles, Firmament, GC, challenge log, plus any exp buffs you might have going. I mean, I'm sure it's less fun for a lot of folks being stuck mid-leveling when all the "real crafting" is at level cap. But. I'd also find it mildly frustrating having everything reach cap before I've fully completed/invested in some of those methods.

[hynaku]

Never hardly used leves for leveling my crafters. I just turned in collectables to level crafting. There is no limit on them.

[Illmaeran]

I understand and accept that SE have made crafting easier but having finally got around to focusing on my crafting a bit the leve exp seems really generous above level 80. I had done GC turn ins a bit so my crafters were all about level 83-84 and I did have penta melded crafting gear from the last expansion but it takes about 3 or 4 turn ins to level up and I didn't even upgrade my gear from the level 80 stuff. In just a few hours I had 3 level 90 crafters, that seems far too easy to me.

Certain leves are easier based on material requirements and some are a lot more difficult if you're not buying things like leather from the MB. Is XP gain higher than in the past? Maybe, but they also got rid of the 3x3 turn-in so they may have increased overall XP gain from those leves where you need to turn three of something in.

I used the Handsaint and Landsaint sets all the way to 90, gathered nearly everything I needed myself, and did ok if I used food and syrup. To be perfectly honest, I got as much, if not more, XP from processing the raw materials needed to make things as I did turning in finished goods. GC dailies, creative job-switching for Custom Deliveries, Studium quests, collectibles, and Dwarf quests helped a lot with leveling LTW and ALC by avoiding some of the worst recipes. It wasn't the most time-efficient method, but making the separate processed components (ingots, etc) individually was huge XP gain. The only jobs I did significant amounts of leve bashing on were ARM and ALC since the 86 and 88 leves had low material requirements and I didn't feel like gathering hundreds more ore for ARM.

Two weekend of serious no-life focus got me from 80 to 90 in all DoH and DoL. It was probably 60-65 hours in total.

[lezard21]

who cares if it's too easy. it's crafting. just MB the day 1 overly cheap craft turn ins from the bots SE refuses to get rid of.

[Atamis]

I did find them a bit too generous. you only need to craft 4 or 5 items to get a level. Though without having good gear (despite the script vendor handing it out on the cheap) I can understand I'm probably not the target audience there. I just wish the individual crafts gave better bonus xp for first time complete.

[Jennah]

... why wouldn't you use collectables instead? No limit, and they pay better.

[Eriane_Elis]

Leves are fine, but leveling through the firmament should be severly nerfed for both crafter and gatherer. People shouldn't become a level 90 omni gatherer and crafter in 2 days. It should maybe take 2 weeks or so (about a month for light weight grinding your way there).

[Raven2014]

Leves are fine, but leveling through the firmament should be severly nerfed for both crafter and gatherer. People shouldn't become a level 90 omni gatherer and crafter in 2 days. It should maybe take 2 weeks or so (about a month for light weight grinding your way there).

uh I got all of them up in ONE day ... without touching Firmament.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Considering you have multiple crafter and gatherer to do as well as then more crafting/gathering for the sake of getting materia to penta meld why would you want the 80>90 to take even longer?