Parsing unfair but okay?

[Darksummoner]

I dont even have animations on and yet i see what people are doing wrong on classes I know. Since they still do animations, just without all the flashy.

I SEE this sam using their gap GAINER on cooldown without using gap closer after, always running in. And... not using their dot and all that. I have EYES.
I SEE this BLM using their Aoe combo on single target.
I SEE healers being not even there in spirit.
I SEE Drgs not Aoeing because their aoe has a very distinct animation.
I SEE many brds using Paean in their rotation but not when somebody(or them) have esunable debuffs, where it would actually be useful
I've seen many things, i have eyes.

You do not need effects to tell animations apart, especially as healer/Tank, they have a lot of time to look at people and wonder "What".

No need for parsers to be able to tell whats clearly wrong, especially if pulls take extremely long, too. Just because people know what to look for and see you not doing it, doesnt mean they are using parsers.

Not too sure on this one. I also think some people are just going after people for no reason as well. Like a couple of days ago I had someone whisper me and say why was I modding. and when I asked them what are they talking about. They responded it is the way you are standing it looks like you are modding. I have never ever modded on my account and don't intend to. I am wayyyy toooo scared for trying any of that. Some people are just literally walking around picking on people to start stuff. I find it insane honestly. I think some people in this game log on just to make life harder for others.

[Alzinor]

I love FFXIV. I really do. But trying to ban every dang thing in the book is a slight bit ludicrous.

You using discord...banned

You using teamspeak....banned

You using Ventrilo...banned

You using parsing addons, or so we hear, YOU ARE BANNED.


This is isn't china. You can't keep everyone from doing things. Is this really Square-Enix's stance on things. If so the it is a little possessive. I can't even imagine babysitting millions of peoples computers

the " ban for using discord, ts etc" is a meme tbh..

ToS only prevent player to use third party tool that could change or interact with your in game experience (like botting, anti-afk tool etc).

they never said being in vocal while playing was forbidden lmao

Square enix is a snowflakes friendly company i agree but they can't go too far and your own country law prevent them to do it.

[JanVanding]

I love FFXIV. I really do. But trying to ban every dang thing in the book is a slight bit ludicrous.

You using discord...banned

You using teamspeak....banned

You using Ventrilo...banned

You using parsing addons, or so we hear, YOU ARE BANNED.


This is isn't china. You can't keep everyone from doing things. Is this really Square-Enix's stance on things. If so the it is a little possessive. I can't even imagine babysitting millions of peoples computers

It actually isn't against the rules to use Discord at all, that's a straight falsehood, same with Teamspeak, Ventrilo and even Parsing.

It's if you're using them as tools to harass, that's where SE draws the line.

[Cheremia]

Some people are just literally walking around picking on people to start stuff. I find it insane honestly. I think some people in this game log on just to make life harder for others.

Thats completely different and is usually from people that have no idea. And people that want to be annoying, if they know what they‘re talking about… if they know that is.

Mods are clientside, right? Only you are able to see them, nobody else. Thats how i think it works.
Only thing i saw is people sitting/lying where its usually impossible. Nothing that bothers me, wish it was naturally possible.

But it IS usually people that have no idea how it works that are the most vocal on it like the thing you described.

It IS obvious, you hear effects without having them on on top of everything. Skills do have distinct noises.

I hear the paean from that one bard in narnia…
And parsing isnt some great evil in itself.
I‘d like to know if i could do better, even if i‘m a casual. I just want to do the best for myself.

Not my fault theres so many babies playing that want to play games without playing them.
It goes faster if you do at least decent damage, you know…

[Risvertasashi]

I love FFXIV. I really do. But trying to ban every dang thing in the book is a slight bit ludicrous.

You using discord...banned

You using teamspeak....banned

You using Ventrilo...banned

You using parsing addons, or so we hear, YOU ARE BANNED.


This is isn't china. You can't keep everyone from doing things. Is this really Square-Enix's stance on things. If so the it is a little possessive. I can't even imagine babysitting millions of peoples computers

Despite the posts above, it actually is their official stance. They're not out of touch - in a live letter, Yoshi P used these as examples for why they don't give specific advice for specific apps. Another example he used is using microsoft excel to calculate DPS from a copy pasted battlelog. Technically it falls afoul of the TOS, but in practice it would be ridiculous to enforce - but because making "per app" distinctions would never end, they have a blanket policy of using third party apps with FF14 in any way is not allowed.

Please note that I am not agreeing with their stance. But that's what they've said it is and that's their explanation.

Here's an exact quote on that segment:

For example, it’s not done in real time and after the battle is over, the battle log is still left right? So opening the log data, copying the data left on the log, then pasting that into Excel, so like I’m a developer, I actually have and make a lot of Excel macros. So at first, I just do additions, combining just the numbers, so like there is a macro if I just add the log file, it would automatically calculate all the numbers like a stylesheet, because it’s convenient for myself you know? So in that case if you ask if Excel is an external tool… Well personally, I won’t accept it, if something is prohibited, then it’s prohibited. Even if it just does basic functions, it’s still an external tool, so, please DON’T use it.

And here is the full translation if you're curious.

So, to reiterate. Their policy is no third party apps/tools/etc, period.

[JanVanding]

Despite the posts above, it actually is their official stance. They're not out of touch - in a live letter, Yoshi P used these as examples for why they don't give specific advice for specific apps. Another example he used is using microsoft excel to calculate DPS from a copy pasted battlelog. Technically it falls afoul of the TOS, but in practice it would be ridiculous to enforce - but because making "per app" distinctions would never end, they have a blanket policy of using third party apps with FF14 in any way is not allowed.

Please note that I am not agreeing with their stance. But that's what they've said it is and that's their explanation.

Here's an exact quote on that segment:


And here is the full translation if you're curious.

So, to reiterate. Their policy is no third party apps/tools/etc, period.

Out of date policy.

Live letter going into last ShB patch Yoshida addressesed ACT, Discord, etc directly

And the stance is now we will only take action if you're using these to harass others, which they have a zero tolerance policy on

[Risvertasashi]

Out of date policy.

Live letter going into last ShB patch Yoshida addressesed ACT, Discord, etc directly

And the stance is now we will only take action if you're using these to harass others, which they have a zero tolerance policy on

Do you have a link?

If they've genuinely said they're changing their policy I'd like to update my references.

[JanVanding]

Do you have a link?

If they've genuinely said they're changing their policy I'd like to update my references.

Here ya go.

https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU

[Menriq]

Here ya go.

https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU

That's the video, and what Risvertasashi posted is the literal English translation of that video.

[JanVanding]

That's the video, and what Risvertasashi posted is the literal English translation of that video.

See the dates. 1yr+ ago, 5 months ago.

Oh and in case you're wondering why they changed the stance....

Turns out Yoshida runs ACT for doing Ultimates and has uploaded parses