Parsing unfair but okay?

[JanVanding]

These people are usually the ones not using CDs, dropping combos or quintuple weaving from what I've seen though.

Oh I agree heck, if I hadn't started using tools myself I'd have stayed Naive and continued thinking that because it worked in ShB it would continue to work in EW.

What people forget about ShB is Crit/DH was incredibly busted and as long as you stacked them you could easily mask rotation mistakes and develop bad habits that would become exposed in EW. I had honestly no idea I was making these GCD clipping mistakes even with FFlogs because of the bad habits I'd developed from EW.

Why when my Ultimate Raider friend gave me the link to the analysis tool it was a massive eye opener to what I was actually doing wrong, that I was playing way too fast and I'd have never known without having that information in front of me.

[NzomiKujo]

If people are so obsessed with parsing, why not just create a bot program to play the game for you then? What is the point in having a program tell you how to improve if you aren't doing the improving yourself?

There is(or was) already one. People on discord used it to clear Savages and get The Perfect Legend title with easy 99 parse. They streamed it on Twitch.

[Didac]

You know you can add a command into your profile to have your FFlogs blocked so people can't see them right? Just try to find mine. I dare you

I'm in awe at your might.

[Navnav]

I'd say report anyone that asked for parsed dps.
There is no grey area, once someone screws up using it to outline someones bad dps, they get banned. Just using it IS against the Terms. It doesn't matter what picture anyone here is painting, you shouldn't be using no parsers, and they fact statics can deny you entry to join them is their right, but not by taking into account what you parsed.
Ban them... In wow his in common place, happens all the time, normal. You do NOT want that to become normal here.

[SaberMaxwell]

Stop talking about "You don't want this game to become like wow." This game has existed for 8 years now, 11 counting 1.0. It has its established community culture at this point and it was influenced by wow from the very design document. You're not our wisened savior come from an aging land.

Second, for my static that will be meeting for several hours a week (we're at 40+ hours this week, almost killed 4s), I reserve the right to deny potential members for any reason. Don't like your attitude? Denied. Don't like your glam? Denied. Decide based on your log history you're not worth gambling on as a good fit for my group? Denied. This works as much to the other party's benefit too, they don't end up with any filthy toxic elitists who don't play with their same mindset, so they can continue holding up their noses whenever parsing is brought up in polite society.

[IdowhatIwant]

Hello,

I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments. I've cleared the previous raid tier but I don't have the logs.

Is this never intended to be enforced and just a blanket policy with no action ever intended to be taken?

I find this a massive advantage to PC user since I don't have the option available on playstation. I don't have the ability to see if I'm improving or if my gear setup makes a difference. I'm not asking to parse but a self dps meter for consoles would make a giant difference in being competetive. Currently the only available method to test my damage is the target dummy trials but in 3 minutes it can be heavily skewed by crits/dh and the times can vary by a lot.

Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?

It is weird you don't have logs TBH cause I have logs uploaded by other people just from clearing the content. Have you tried looking yourself up and providing what is online? Can't really give any advice on this IMO if a group is asking for logs just to join a static they sound like people I probably would not have a good time raiding with. Sure I want to clear content but I also want to enjoy my time doing it and those group don't sound fun.

Discord I don't know what to tell ya there you can use it on your phone. I would just mute yourself so everyone isn't stuck listening to your background noise.

Also it is funny how everyone is hyper focused on the parser but no one acknowledged the discord issue.

[Saraide]

I'd say report anyone that asked for parsed dps.
There is no grey area, once someone screws up using it to outline someones bad dps, they get banned. Just using it IS against the Terms. It doesn't matter what picture anyone here is painting, you shouldn't be using no parsers, and they fact statics can deny you entry to join them is their right, but not by taking into account what you parsed.
Ban them... In wow his in common place, happens all the time, normal. You do NOT want that to become normal here.

Another ToS herald here, dont you find it a bit odd that your suggestion is to just report left and right when OP is asking for advice how to join higher end statics? Dont you feel like that would be counter productive? A static leader doesnt need a reason at all to deny you entry, there simply is no right to join a static.

[Axxion]

You know you can add a command into your profile to have your FFlogs blocked so people can't see them right? Just try to find mine. I dare you

But wasnt there a site that can still pull of that information regardless if it is fflogs or not? I faintly remember that

[Lunatory]

I'd say report anyone that asked for parsed dps.
There is no grey area, once someone screws up using it to outline someones bad dps, they get banned. Just using it IS against the Terms. It doesn't matter what picture anyone here is painting, you shouldn't be using no parsers, and they fact statics can deny you entry to join them is their right, but not by taking into account what you parsed.
Ban them... In wow his in common place, happens all the time, normal. You do NOT want that to become normal here.

I think you got it mixed up. While the act of parsing is against the ToS, asking for someone's logs outside of the game is absolutely okay. Not that it would be punishable anyway. I could be someone that has only played on Playstation and never ran XIV on windows at all and still ask for your logs. Morality aside, this is not prohibited. It is then your right to say you have no logs, to which in turn I can deny your application.

[JennytheJester]

The only reason I've been watching this thread is because I do agree with people who say that parsing should not be used to gatekeep people. Unfortunately, as I've came back from my first time leaving the game, I've started to realize again the reasons I left and it is a little disappointing with how this community behaves.

I can agree on the fundamental but I disagree with you when it comes to specifics. To clarify, I agree, nobody should be gatekept in any game. However that being said, it's a team effort and depending on content it can actually necessitate people be able to pull their own weight. Savage specifically which a lot of people do Party Finder. Extremes early on too. They have DPS checks, people need to hit those. P4S unless you immensely outgear it is a pretty strict DPS check, enough so there's now a litany of strats that are focused solely on uptime. This isn't for parsing sake mostly, it's because your entire raid maintaining 48k dps across the raid especially during Pinax which is a huge uptime hit is pretty rough. One death for most pugs that aren't full of pentamelded crafting geared players who are very competent is enough to not meet that mark.