Parsing unfair but okay?

[van_arn]

It's a dip in DPS that any smart static leader will be able to go "ah, that's why the drop there" and will move on and not use that dip against you solely because you used the LB3. If you use your LB3 in the middle of your high burst phase, the LB3 could lower your DPS. So wait until the end of the burst phase unless you believe the boss will die before you get it off otherwise. And then maybe it won't ding you or as much.

As for others not using it, it simply could be that they normally play a caster DPS or tank or heal and are on a melee class they haven't played in a while and forgot they can. Or they got absorbed in their rotation and forgot to use the LB3. And if you're a melee and the other DPS are either ranged or caster, they're likely expecting you to LB3. Heck even if there are other melees. They may be thinking you'll LB3. I primarily play Black Mage so my LB usage is mainly an LB1 trash pulls and not the LB3 - though I will take it if offered.

It’s written in the contract every melee secretly signs. If there are multiple melee players, the one doing the least damage has the shameful responsibility of using lb3.

It’s why melee players fight so hard to top damage. They don’t want to be the one shamed with the lb3 duty.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Ok that makes sense actually. Just tested with them on training dummy and I see the usage now. Though, Hagakure seems very situational, and my lack of use of it not likely to be the reason for my green parses.

Back in ShB, Hagakure used to be an important part to keep SAM’s 60 rotation loops perfectly depending on how fast is your GCD under your own haste (Shifu) buff. This involves keeping Higanbana uptime, keeping Meikyou & Tsubame on cooldown, aligning with other important cooldowns such as Ikishoten & Senei/Guren. Done correctly, and you’ll always execute all those abilities as they come off cooldown. Coincidentally, 60 seconds is also when your other party member most buffs and debuffs goes out so you’ll also gain the benefit of snapshotting your high damage phase into the raidbuff window.

In EW, an orange percentile SAM-geek in my FCmate mentioned they don’t really change too much gameplay wise, but I imagine Hagakure will still be used in similar fashion.

[BristolRuss]

It’s written in the contract every melee secretly signs. If there are multiple melee players, the one doing the least damage has the shameful responsibility of using lb3.

It’s why melee players fight so hard to top damage. They don’t want to be the one shamed with the lb3 duty.

^ this guy knows.

[Airforlife]

If you don't do savage/high end content,why do you need a group anyway ?

[Comrade_uri]

My only complaint is you can’t do this on PS4. It’s a great tool for self improvement and if you can get analytics for moves and such missed or miss used with advice then all the better.

Other then that I think I’m just echoing what some say. Numbers to self improve or aid others who have asked for such help? Cool.
Using it in a way to harass or otherwise be a gif? Not cool.

[JanVanding]

Then why should I care? If it matters it should be in the game. If it genuinely does matter, than it's bad design to not have it ingame. Yet nowhere does the game include parsing tools. Nowhere does the game suggest I need them to understand how to play, and it does have multiple tutorials and a ingame guides. Yet nowhere does parsing exist officially. In fact, they ban you for having the tools to see them. I'll care about parsing the second it's an official ingame tool, otherwise, it's irrelevant. And if someone ingame tells me to show them my parses, then they can enjoy their ban.

If I wanted to play a game where I must rely on third party tools to actually play the game than I'd be playing World of Warcatft (Property of Microsoft).

People can tell without parsers if you aren't doing your job properly.

They can switch on animations and listen for sound effects, they can look at the debuffs and your buffs, they can tell as they usually have played the job themselves if you're using the Kenki Gauge properly, they know the rotation off by heart so they will 100% know if you're doing it wrong.

When I see a Bard for instance opening with Mage Ballad and not applying DoTs for an entire 30 seconds, I know they're not just playing the job wrong ...

I know they don't read tool tips, look at resources available to help them or anything.

They should not be in Savage until they actually learn the job to at least a level of basic competency.

You refusing to play SAM properly and getting mad that people are pointing out you're not playing SAM properly is nothing to do with the Parsing tool....

You're failing to use resources that are available to everyone and not playing the job at a basic competency level expected of Savage content.

You agreed to play your job to a higher standard when you clicked agree when signing up for Savage.

Don't report people for deciding they don't want to group with you after a couple pulls

Go learn your job rotation properly and stop having a stick up your backside about it

You're wasting seven other people's time and failing the spirit of the agreement that you clicked agree on.

[Saraide]

Then why should I care? If it matters it should be in the game. If it genuinely does matter, than it's bad design to not have it ingame. Yet nowhere does the game include parsing tools. Nowhere does the game suggest I need them to understand how to play, and it does have multiple tutorials and a ingame guides. Yet nowhere does parsing exist officially. In fact, they ban you for having the tools to see them. I'll care about parsing the second it's an official ingame tool, otherwise, it's irrelevant. And if someone ingame tells me to show them my parses, then they can enjoy their ban.

If I wanted to play a game where I must rely on third party tools to actually play the game than I'd be playing World of Warcatft (Property of Microsoft).

Technically stone sky sea exists and it's essentially a super basic parser. I dont know why it's so difficult to accept you were doing something wrong. We all made massive mistakes when starting out, that's just how getting practice works.

[Rilifane]

It’s written in the contract every melee secretly signs. If there are multiple melee players, the one doing the least damage has the shameful responsibility of using lb3.

It’s why melee players fight so hard to top damage. They don’t want to be the one shamed with the lb3 duty.

If it looks nice, I volunteer to do it the moment I'm back in my 123 wet noodle phase.
DRG LB3? 100% mine, don't even try to snatch it. I don't care if someone was floor tanking while I was top DPS, that LB3 is mine.
When I'm on RDM, just wait for the next mechanic with lots of markers and you're guaranteed to get my flashy shameful responsibility burned into your retina forever.

[Cheremia]

I dont even have animations on and yet i see what people are doing wrong on classes I know. Since they still do animations, just without all the flashy.

I SEE this sam using their gap GAINER on cooldown without using gap closer after, always running in. And... not using their dot and all that. I have EYES.
I SEE this BLM using their Aoe combo on single target.
I SEE healers being not even there in spirit.
I SEE Drgs not Aoeing because their aoe has a very distinct animation.
I SEE many brds using Paean in their rotation but not when somebody(or them) have esunable debuffs, where it would actually be useful
I've seen many things, i have eyes.

You do not need effects to tell animations apart, especially as healer/Tank, they have a lot of time to look at people and wonder "What".

No need for parsers to be able to tell whats clearly wrong, especially if pulls take extremely long, too. Just because people know what to look for and see you not doing it, doesnt mean they are using parsers.

[Darksummoner]

The midcore to hardcore casuals are about to come in.

I can smell it.

That and popcorn.

Edit; It’s also against ToS to use Discord but I’ll keep utilizing it as a tool to improve my gameplay experience.

Running parsers is against the letter but not the spirit of the game and thus is generally something Square turns a blind eye to.

Disparaging other players based on parser data, or demanding they use parsers, is against both the letter and spirit of the game, and a GM will take action if you report someone for doing so.

I love FFXIV. I really do. But trying to ban every dang thing in the book is a slight bit ludicrous.

You using discord...banned

You using teamspeak....banned

You using Ventrilo...banned

You using parsing addons, or so we hear, YOU ARE BANNED.


This is isn't china. You can't keep everyone from doing things. Is this really Square-Enix's stance on things. If so the it is a little possessive. I can't even imagine babysitting millions of peoples computers