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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    Pretty much every static will have someone who parses, that's the reality and it's normal. If a static group is particularly interested in knowing their own metrics in order to improve their own gameplay by finding their struggle points, seeing where they're at and being able to compare to others who're where they wish to be... that's completely fine, and their business. If they want to play with like-minded people, that's also fine. You being a part of a group with a mentality that's fundamentally opposed to your own, is stupid and you don't belong there nor will you have fun there. At that point, you find a group that fits your own mindset... you don't demand groups you wouldn't even enjoy change and cater to what you want - that's self-centered and childish behavior.

    Either way, parsing is fine. It's technically against ToS just as Discord technically is. The predominant rule with parsing is not to harass, put down, or otherwise insult others for their numbers and to utilize it as an improvement tool. So long as you don't do the latter, you'll be golden.

    And, even so -- most statics don't require you, yourself, to run the parsing program. Usually it's just someone there does, or multiple people do. Statics that want your metrics will, in some cases, provide a trial if they think your reasons are solid for not having anything available. Even so, if you're trying to get into a Hardcore group, and likely most Midcore groups, they won't largely want to take people who have nothing up since the initial reaction might be that the person in question is just starting out and that's not the sort of player they're looking for. And that's within their right, to choose who they want to play with.
    My last comment then back to lurk mode. If people are so obsessed with parsing, why not just create a bot program to play the game for you then? What is the point in having a program tell you how to improve if you aren't doing the improving yourself?

    Maybe I'm just someone of the morality that I want to get better on my own. Growing and learning, not be told by a program that I should've casted F4 when I casted F1. If you need Discord to have someone shouting where to move in a raid, do you really deserve the reward at the end? You didn't learn the fight, you followed a marker.

    Good luck!
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    Vevri Arctyria
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    My last comment then back to lurk mode. If people are so obsessed with parsing, why not just create a bot program to play the game for you then? What is the point in having a program tell you how to improve if you aren't doing the improving yourself?

    Maybe I'm just someone of the morality that I want to get better on my own. Growing and learning, not be told by a program that I should've casted F4 when I casted F1. If you need Discord to have someone shouting where to move in a raid, do you really deserve the reward at the end? You didn't learn the fight, you followed a marker.

    Good luck!
    You need information to know how to improve.

    Don't you read books to learn more about a subject? Why not just do the learning, magically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    My last comment then back to lurk mode. If people are so obsessed with parsing, why not just create a bot program to play the game for you then? What is the point in having a program tell you how to improve if you aren't doing the improving yourself?
    I never face-palmed so hard in my life.

    Hollllyyyyy.

    I'm kind of thankful you're removing yourself from the conversation after saying that - 'cause I'm feeling some second-hand embarrassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    My last comment then back to lurk mode. If people are so obsessed with parsing, why not just create a bot program to play the game for you then? What is the point in having a program tell you how to improve if you aren't doing the improving yourself?

    Maybe I'm just someone of the morality that I want to get better on my own. Growing and learning, not be told by a program that I should've casted F4 when I casted F1. If you need Discord to have someone shouting where to move in a raid, do you really deserve the reward at the end? You didn't learn the fight, you followed a marker.

    Good luck!
    Tell me you don't do any high end content without telling me you don't do high end content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    My last comment then back to lurk mode. If people are so obsessed with parsing, why not just create a bot program to play the game for you then? What is the point in having a program tell you how to improve if you aren't doing the improving yourself?

    Maybe I'm just someone of the morality that I want to get better on my own. Growing and learning, not be told by a program that I should've casted F4 when I casted F1. If you need Discord to have someone shouting where to move in a raid, do you really deserve the reward at the end? You didn't learn the fight, you followed a marker.

    Good luck!
    Even i ignore high end content[but i still watch for the toxicity hehe] but ure on a whole other level.

    Parsing lets you find the optimal way to play a job, YOU still play the game, YOU still do the rotations and all, you just get more information than what the game provides to see if ure doing good enough.

    You can always do the traditional way of trying to kill an EX dummy or something in under a certain amount of minites instead.

    What ure suggesting is unrelated to the thread as a whole tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    My last comment then back to lurk mode. If people are so obsessed with parsing, why not just create a bot program to play the game for you then? What is the point in having a program tell you how to improve if you aren't doing the improving yourself?

    Maybe I'm just someone of the morality that I want to get better on my own. Growing and learning, not be told by a program that I should've casted F4 when I casted F1. If you need Discord to have someone shouting where to move in a raid, do you really deserve the reward at the end? You didn't learn the fight, you followed a marker.

    Good luck!
    bro please you make us lalafells looks bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    If people are so obsessed with parsing, why not just create a bot program to play the game for you then? What is the point in having a program tell you how to improve if you aren't doing the improving yourself?
    There is(or was) already one. People on discord used it to clear Savages and get The Perfect Legend title with easy 99 parse. They streamed it on Twitch.
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