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    Skyclaw726's Avatar
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    I don't think I have ever seen a parse advertised in PF and no group I have raided with has requested logs or anything.
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    Ria Skybreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyclaw726 View Post
    I don't think I have ever seen a parse advertised in PF and no group I have raided with has requested logs or anything.
    I have. Repeatedly. I've been taking a few screencaps as I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people openly asking for them and have been debating it over with my FC - https://imgur.com/a/aHAqf4l from yesterday for example.

    Now don't get me wrong, I'm fine with groups being formed based on logs - but not with it being 'enforced' by elitists on pf.

    Actually, what's everyone's thoughts on openly asking for logs in PF? Is it even against TOS?
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairecilla View Post
    I have. Repeatedly. I've been taking a few screencaps as I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people openly asking for them and have been debating it over with my FC - https://imgur.com/a/aHAqf4l from yesterday for example.

    Now don't get me wrong, I'm fine with groups being formed based on logs - but not with it being 'enforced' by elitists on pf.

    Actually, what's everyone's thoughts on openly asking for logs in PF? Is it even against TOS?
    Their PF, their rules. Don’t like it, then join another or make your own that doesn’t require logs. Simple. It’s not anyone’s business to question what a party leader does with the PF they create.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Their PF, their rules. Don’t like it, then join another or make your own that doesn’t require logs. Simple. It’s not anyone’s business to question what a party leader does with the PF they create.
    Yeah, no, agreed. I see it, I cap, I go do my own thing.

    It is, however, questionable if openly asking for 3rd party tools in PF is against TOS and openly harms new people entering the extreme scene. That was the debate I intended to open.
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairecilla View Post
    Yeah, no, agreed. I see it, I cap, I go do my own thing.

    It is, however, questionable if openly asking for 3rd party tools in PF is against TOS and openly harms new people entering the extreme scene. That was the debate I intended to open.
    I don’t think it does. A majority of parties are regular farm/clear parties. New players are fine.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairecilla View Post
    Yeah, no, agreed. I see it, I cap, I go do my own thing.

    It is, however, questionable if openly asking for 3rd party tools in PF is against TOS and openly harms new people entering the extreme scene. That was the debate I intended to open.
    It does not. Because those players can also just join other parties or create their own. Those PFs have no bearing on the accessibility of the content. Extremes (and Savages) are more accessible than ever these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairecilla View Post
    openly harms new people entering the extreme scene
    how, though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    how, though?
    "entitled mentality"
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Their PF, their rules. Don’t like it, then join another or make your own that doesn’t require logs. Simple. It’s not anyone’s business to question what a party leader does with the PF they create.
    Just reading your responses thus far, I hope I never have the displeasure of being partied with you. What a buzzkill.
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