Parsing unfair but okay?

[Akiudo]

for arguments sake lets assume the thread is not just Bait, saying one has raided for x amount of time and simply has no logs at all because they can't/don't want to parse is more than a little bit iffy.
reality is that most groups will have someone parse and upload logs, if not to brag than for analysing purposes. even if no one i personally know would have uploaded a single log i would still have several logs for some older ex primals, and i basically never actively joined random groups to do the kills but mostly jumped in if a buddy of mine was like "hey, we still need 1 guy to fill in, you up?"

same goes for normal mode kills, which while not really great a metric do give you at least a vague idea of someones performance if they average purple+ compared to someone with more than 5 normal mode logs which are all grey aswell as a single no death 7% ex kill.

if you have no logs at all, like literally zero logs for old or current content even though you claim to have experience reaching back at least a complete expansion than i'll just assume you either lie and have no experiences at all or you have your logs hidden and draw my conclusions from there, and i assure you theres a 99% chance of being right in my assessment with that approach. Now "bad" logs are an entirely different story, unless someones logs are flat out terrible over a long enough period 90% of groups will simply throw you a bone and ask why exactly your logs are as bad they are and give you a trial run.

[Lauren]

for arguments sake lets assume the thread is not just Bait, saying one has raided for x amount of time and simply has no logs at all because they can't/don't want to parse is more than a little bit iffy.

Which I did early on and shows a TON of parses from Shadowbringers. This is why this whole thread is a bait

[Saraide]

for arguments sake lets assume the thread is not just Bait, saying one has raided for x amount of time and simply has no logs at all because they can't/don't want to parse is more than a little bit iffy.
reality is that most groups will have someone parse and upload logs, if not to brag than for analysing purposes. even if no one i personally know would have uploaded a single log i would still have several logs for some older ex primals, and i basically never actively joined random groups to do the kills but mostly jumped in if a buddy of mine was like "hey, we still need 1 guy to fill in, you up?"

same goes for normal mode kills, which while not really great a metric do give you at least a vague idea of someones performance if they average purple+ compared to someone with more than 5 normal mode logs which are all grey aswell as a single no death 7% ex kill.

if you have no logs at all, like literally zero logs for old or current content even though you claim to have experience reaching back at least a complete expansion than i'll just assume you either lie and have no experiences at all or you have your logs hidden and draw my conclusions from there, and i assure you theres a 99% chance of being right in my assessment with that approach. Now "bad" logs are an entirely different story, unless someones logs are flat out terrible over a long enough period 90% of groups will simply throw you a bone and ask why exactly your logs are as bad they are and give you a trial run.

Yea I'd like to think that if all the logs you have over time show an improvement that will matter a lot more than individual bad logs.

[EaMett]

for arguments sake lets assume the thread is not just Bait, saying one has raided for x amount of time and simply has no logs at all because they can't/don't want to parse is more than a little bit iffy.
reality is that most groups will have someone parse and upload logs, if not to brag than for analysing purposes. even if no one i personally know would have uploaded a single log i would still have several logs for some older ex primals, and i basically never actively joined random groups to do the kills but mostly jumped in if a buddy of mine was like "hey, we still need 1 guy to fill in, you up?"

same goes for normal mode kills, which while not really great a metric do give you at least a vague idea of someones performance if they average purple+ compared to someone with more than 5 normal mode logs which are all grey aswell as a single no death 7% ex kill.

if you have no logs at all, like literally zero logs for old or current content even though you claim to have experience reaching back at least a complete expansion than i'll just assume you either lie and have no experiences at all or you have your logs hidden and draw my conclusions from there, and i assure you theres a 99% chance of being right in my assessment with that approach. Now "bad" logs are an entirely different story, unless someones logs are flat out terrible over a long enough period 90% of groups will simply throw you a bone and ask why exactly your logs are as bad they are and give you a trial run.

Just to add a bit to this. Some groups will keep their logs unranked. Reasons will vary and won't always be good but it's a thing. Same groups usually don't fill when they have an absentee either (from my experience). They just reschedule. And members are even less likely to pug or join other groups. So it's plausible that someone could have 0 logs for a tier. I've also seen some decent players come from such statics (they generally aren't the ones that drive the unranking of logs). It takes 5 seconds to clear this up with said player if they apply for your static though. And they can generally produce a handful of unranked log links for you if needed. Not that that's particularly useful.

[Somnolence]

Just to add a bit to this. Some groups will keep their logs unranked. Reasons will vary and won't always be good but it's a thing. Same groups usually don't fill when they have an absentee either (from my experience). They just reschedule. And members are even less likely to pug or join other groups. So it's plausible that someone could have 0 logs for a tier. I've also seen some decent players come from such statics (they generally aren't the ones that drive the unranking of logs). It takes 5 seconds to clear this up with said player if they apply for your static though. And they can generally produce a handful of unranked log links for you if needed. Not that that's particularly useful.

This is often the case with more casual statics. In addition to that, such statics usually don't even start at week 1, but sometimes months latter, not sure how ranking works in this case, if they are being ranked just against recent runs then they would be ranked against speed runners etc, no?