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    Batbrat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    But you have hard enrages here. You are set on a clock to kill a boss. You need the DPS.
    Seriously, is playing the game as intended is now "toxic wow elitism" whilst curebotting is the norm?
    Did you know that in the past, bosses had enrage timers and there were actually no parsing programs because they simply didnt exist, and yet plenty of people still cleared them anyway? A lot of you don't understand that what you're crying about needing is still relatively new. Yes, YOU need a program to spoon feed you what you're doing wrong. But not everyone does. Especially those who experienced gaming before any of this came to be. Again. Just a few years ago, parsing programs werent even a thing in a lot of games. Raiding in quite a few games you did completely blind just judging based on how combos worked against attack dummies or from you and your team just trying the fights constantly until you got it down.

    People didnt just give up. They didnt just "UOOOHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT SEE WHAT IM DOOOOOOOOING NUMBERSWISE??? HOW DO WE BEAT THIIIIIIIIIS" They didnt hunch at their pcs totaling up the damage of every teammate they had. They just made a group and hoped for the best. and yet here we are today...pretty much the embodiment of that tough dog vs the crying dog meme...people acting like they can't even go west of la noscea to gather a pear without knowing what their axe parse will be...it's just pathetic. I'll be honest with you, it's pathetic. It's whiny, it's toddler inspired, it's as little as a little brain can be to insinuate that without parsing people can't even beat bosses. I truly can't believe we're even here in gaming. Lmao. What happened. What happened???? How did this happen
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    Garnetiferous's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Did you know that in the past, bosses had enrage timers and there were actually no parsing programs because they simply didnt exist, and yet plenty of people still cleared them anyway? A lot of you don't understand that what you're crying about needing is still relatively new. Yes, YOU need a program to spoon feed you what you're doing wrong. But not everyone does. Especially those who experienced gaming before any of this came to be. Again. Just a few years ago, parsing programs werent even a thing in a lot of games. Raiding in quite a few games you did completely blind just judging based on how combos worked against attack dummies or from you and your team just trying the fights constantly until you got it down.

    People didnt just give up. They didnt just "UOOOHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT SEE WHAT IM DOOOOOOOOING NUMBERSWISE??? HOW DO WE BEAT THIIIIIIIIIS" They didnt hunch at their pcs totaling up the damage of every teammate they had. They just made a group and hoped for the best. and yet here we are today...pretty much the embodiment of that tough dog vs the crying dog meme...people acting like they can't even go west of la noscea to gather a pear without knowing what their axe parse will be...it's just pathetic. I'll be honest with you, it's pathetic. It's whiny, it's toddler inspired, it's as little as a little brain can be to insinuate that without parsing people can't even beat bosses. I truly can't believe we're even here in gaming. Lmao. What happened. What happened???? How did this happen
    Been playing this game since 2.0. There were parsers back then. There were several in fact. And yes people did get kicked for doing bad damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Did you know that in the past, bosses had enrage timers and there were actually no parsing programs because they simply didnt exist, and yet plenty of people still cleared them anyway? A lot of you don't understand that what you're crying about needing is still relatively new. Yes, YOU need a program to spoon feed you what you're doing wrong. But not everyone does. Especially those who experienced gaming before any of this came to be. Again. Just a few years ago, parsing programs werent even a thing in a lot of games. Raiding in quite a few games you did completely blind just judging based on how combos worked against attack dummies or from you and your team just trying the fights constantly until you got it down.

    People didnt just give up. They didnt just "UOOOHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT SEE WHAT IM DOOOOOOOOING NUMBERSWISE??? HOW DO WE BEAT THIIIIIIIIIS" They didnt hunch at their pcs totaling up the damage of every teammate they had. They just made a group and hoped for the best. and yet here we are today...pretty much the embodiment of that tough dog vs the crying dog meme...people acting like they can't even go west of la noscea to gather a pear without knowing what their axe parse will be...it's just pathetic. I'll be honest with you, it's pathetic. It's whiny, it's toddler inspired, it's as little as a little brain can be to insinuate that without parsing people can't even beat bosses. I truly can't believe we're even here in gaming. Lmao. What happened. What happened???? How did this happen

    The funniest part of all of this is watching these same types of people play any video game that isn't an MMO and seeing them get filtered within the first 10 minutes. Turns out they were just using addons as a crutch for being having poor reaction times and lacking basic problem solving skills, and when they can't use them, they can't play. All that tough talk is just cope for needing third party tools to hold their hand in a video game. As someone who has mostly played action games and puzzle-solving games (cranking the difficulty to maximum possible) all my life I have never understood the need for third party tools to basically dumb down the game for me, let alone flexing about it on the internet. FFXIV's fights revolve around having good reaction times, being able to read telegraphed attacks, and having bare minimum problem solving skills to be able to decipher certain mechanics that aren't just obvious telegraphed attacks but require you to pay attention and use your brain, alongside knowing your job and how to perform it correctly.

    If you need any sort of addon to raid in this game, I'm sorry, but you are legitimately a bad player. To me, were I forming a static, it's more of a red flag that you use them then if you don't. If you need some third party internet tool to tell you if you're playing badly or not I don't want you anywhere near my raids.
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    Last edited by YukikoKurosawa; 12-31-2021 at 06:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    The funniest part of all of this is watching these same types of people play any video game that isn't an MMO and seeing them get filtered within the first 10 minutes. Turns out they were just using addons as a crutch for being having poor reaction times and lacking basic problem solving skills, and when they can't use them, they can't play. All that tough talk is just cope for needing third party tools to hold their hand in a video game. As someone who has mostly played action games and puzzle-solving games (cranking the difficulty to maximum possible) all my life I have never understood the need for third party tools to basically dumb down the game for me, let alone flexing about it on the internet. FFXIV's fights revolve around having good reaction times, being able to read telegraphed attacks, and having bare minimum problem solving skills to be able to decipher certain mechanics that aren't just obvious telegraphed attacks but require you to pay attention and use your brain, alongside knowing your job and how to perform it correctly.

    If you need any sort of addon to raid in this game, I'm sorry, but you are legitimately a bad player. To me, were I forming a static, it's more of a red flag that you use them then if you don't. If you need some third party internet tool to tell you if you're playing badly or not I don't want you anywhere near my raids.
    This is so funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    The funniest part of all of this is watching these same types of people play any video game that isn't an MMO and seeing them get filtered within the first 10 minutes. Turns out they were just using addons as a crutch for being having poor reaction times and lacking basic problem solving skills, and when they can't use them, they can't play. All that tough talk is just cope for needing third party tools to hold their hand in a video game. As someone who has mostly played action games and puzzle-solving games (cranking the difficulty to maximum possible) all my life I have never understood the need for third party tools to basically dumb down the game for me, let alone flexing about it on the internet. FFXIV's fights revolve around having good reaction times, being able to read telegraphed attacks, and having bare minimum problem solving skills to be able to decipher certain mechanics that aren't just obvious telegraphed attacks but require you to pay attention and use your brain, alongside knowing your job and how to perform it correctly.

    If you need any sort of addon to raid in this game, I'm sorry, but you are legitimately a bad player. To me, were I forming a static, it's more of a red flag that you use them then if you don't. If you need some third party internet tool to tell you if you're playing badly or not I don't want you anywhere near my raids.
    DPS Meters != Cactbot. The funny thing is, those same players who are parsing orange and purple aren't using addons, so this whole post is a completely different topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    DPS Meters != Cactbot. The funny thing is, those same players who are parsing orange and purple aren't using addons, so this whole post is a completely different topic.
    A lot of raiders despise Cactbot. It's just a crutch, in my opinion. But I have similar views of callouts. I prefer to be able to do the content without having to rely on someone else to complete it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    The funniest part of all of this is watching these same types of people play any video game that isn't an MMO and seeing them get filtered within the first 10 minutes. Turns out they were just using addons as a crutch for being having poor reaction times and lacking basic problem solving skills, and when they can't use them, they can't play. All that tough talk is just cope for needing third party tools to hold their hand in a video game. As someone who has mostly played action games and puzzle-solving games (cranking the difficulty to maximum possible) all my life I have never understood the need for third party tools to basically dumb down the game for me, let alone flexing about it on the internet. FFXIV's fights revolve around having good reaction times, being able to read telegraphed attacks, and having bare minimum problem solving skills to be able to decipher certain mechanics that aren't just obvious telegraphed attacks but require you to pay attention and use your brain, alongside knowing your job and how to perform it correctly.

    If you need any sort of addon to raid in this game, I'm sorry, but you are legitimately a bad player. To me, were I forming a static, it's more of a red flag that you use them then if you don't. If you need some third party internet tool to tell you if you're playing badly or not I don't want you anywhere near my raids.
    checked ur page xd that was a mistake. this post makes sense now. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Did you know that in the past, bosses had enrage timers and there were actually no parsing programs because they simply didnt exist, and yet plenty of people still cleared them anyway? A lot of you don't understand that what you're crying about needing is still relatively new. Yes, YOU need a program to spoon feed you what you're doing wrong. But not everyone does. Especially those who experienced gaming before any of this came to be. Again. Just a few years ago, parsing programs werent even a thing in a lot of games. Raiding in quite a few games you did completely blind just judging based on how combos worked against attack dummies or from you and your team just trying the fights constantly until you got it down.

    People didnt just give up. They didnt just "UOOOHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT SEE WHAT IM DOOOOOOOOING NUMBERSWISE??? HOW DO WE BEAT THIIIIIIIIIS" They didnt hunch at their pcs totaling up the damage of every teammate they had. They just made a group and hoped for the best. and yet here we are today...pretty much the embodiment of that tough dog vs the crying dog meme...people acting like they can't even go west of la noscea to gather a pear without knowing what their axe parse will be...it's just pathetic. I'll be honest with you, it's pathetic. It's whiny, it's toddler inspired, it's as little as a little brain can be to insinuate that without parsing people can't even beat bosses. I truly can't believe we're even here in gaming. Lmao. What happened. What happened???? How did this happen

    Ayo, how far back we going in the past ?
    Recount (like the very first WoW parser) was invented like 10 years ago lol.

    I mean beepers worked, but you don't want to go back to beepers lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Did you know that in the past, bosses had enrage timers and there were actually no parsing programs because they simply didnt exist, and yet plenty of people still cleared them anyway? A lot of you don't understand that what you're crying about needing is still relatively new. Yes, YOU need a program to spoon feed you what you're doing wrong. But not everyone does. Especially those who experienced gaming before any of this came to be. Again. Just a few years ago, parsing programs werent even a thing in a lot of games. Raiding in quite a few games you did completely blind just judging based on how combos worked against attack dummies or from you and your team just trying the fights constantly until you got it down.

    People didnt just give up. They didnt just "UOOOHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT SEE WHAT IM DOOOOOOOOING NUMBERSWISE??? HOW DO WE BEAT THIIIIIIIIIS" They didnt hunch at their pcs totaling up the damage of every teammate they had. They just made a group and hoped for the best. and yet here we are today...pretty much the embodiment of that tough dog vs the crying dog meme...people acting like they can't even go west of la noscea to gather a pear without knowing what their axe parse will be...it's just pathetic. I'll be honest with you, it's pathetic. It's whiny, it's toddler inspired, it's as little as a little brain can be to insinuate that without parsing people can't even beat bosses. I truly can't believe we're even here in gaming. Lmao. What happened. What happened???? How did this happen
    playing since arr released and....

    when the first coil released there was no 1 but 3 different dps meters, 2 with an english version and 1 was japanese only so..................
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    Last edited by DrFlesh; 12-31-2021 at 08:33 PM.