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  1. #31
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawuhawuu View Post
    Hello,

    I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments. I've cleared the previous raid tier but I don't have the logs.

    Is this never intended to be enforced and just a blanket policy with no action ever intended to be taken?

    I find this a massive advantage to PC user since I don't have the option available on playstation. I don't have the ability to see if I'm improving or if my gear setup makes a difference. I'm not asking to parse but a self dps meter for consoles would make a giant difference in being competetive. Currently the only available method to test my damage is the target dummy trials but in 3 minutes it can be heavily skewed by crits/dh and the times can vary by a lot.

    Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?
    If your first question is about how to punish those groups then I'm not convinced you belong in a MC static, or any static for that matter. Parsers and logs are very useful for high end raiding to keep people honest. Explain them the situation and ask for a trial run. Additionally join farm and parse parties on the current ex trials, someone will probably upload logs.
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  2. #32
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    Xaruko_Nexume's Avatar
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    Xaruko Solo
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    I am so sick of the gray area. Just allow them or don't. This don't ask don't tell is ridiculous and has gone on long enough.
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  3. #33
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    I am so sick of the gray area. Just allow them or don't. This don't ask don't tell is ridiculous and has gone on long enough.
    But it's the right and balanced solution. It deals with the actual problem. Having a gray area like that is not a bad thing, people just have to think for themselves.
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  4. #34
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    Samsara Trickster
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawuhawuu View Post
    Hello,

    I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments. I've cleared the previous raid tier but I don't have the logs.

    Is this never intended to be enforced and just a blanket policy with no action ever intended to be taken?

    I find this a massive advantage to PC user since I don't have the option available on playstation. I don't have the ability to see if I'm improving or if my gear setup makes a difference. I'm not asking to parse but a self dps meter for consoles would make a giant difference in being competetive. Currently the only available method to test my damage is the target dummy trials but in 3 minutes it can be heavily skewed by crits/dh and the times can vary by a lot.

    Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?
    I don't see the problem? You want to join a group of people but not to exept the rules the set? Are they in dept to you and must do what you want? You are the one no one want. Just start your own static and see how well it go when you just take any one.next you will wonder why people ask if you to know what to do?
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    Actually:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6mjiGerU

    - That is their stance on parsers. That's Yoshi-P talking into the camera right there.
    YoshiP: "That system will be the root of bullying. I'm 100% confident in that. I know you'll see this in party finders: 'Only join if you can prove you can do dps XXX amount'. We never want that to happen."

    AHAHAHAHAAHGHAGHAGLHGLHAGLH GALHGLKHKLSDHG KLJKLSDJ WELL
    What can we say. The man was right. The prophecy proved itself to be true. And it's exactly why it'll never officially be in game. You can all see right there that that kind of behavior irritates him. But unfortunately no matter how much people kick and scream, that behavior always without fail always comes hand-in-hand with public parsing. Just report it when you spot it. Yah people will cry and type up novels about why they should be able to do exactly what Yoshi has said multiple times now that he hates. But you have the right of way, so it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to take that person down for demanding that in-game which is stupid and begging for a ban to begin with. Idk why people are so determined to do crimes openly-what is this, san francisco. Jeez. -and if this post makes anyone who doesnt post public pfs asking for parse logs still seethe regardless, then you're tripping your own bike with a stick and I need you to stop that.
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  6. #36
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    Bhearil's Avatar
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    Tuya Bayaqud
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    Parsing and using third party tools are against the rules, guess that anyone using voice chat is also against the rules, I wonder how many players would be able to remain in the game if they followed the letter of the rules instead of the spirit...
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  7. #37
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Parsing and using third party tools are against the rules, guess that anyone using voice chat is also against the rules, I wonder how many players would be able to remain in the game if they followed the letter of the rules instead of the spirit...
    Using voice chat is technically against the rules by their standards. It gives you an 'unfair advantage' if you can communicate with your teammates whilst in the middle of content, after all.
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  8. #38
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    YoshiP: "That system will be the root of bullying. I'm 100% confident in that. I know you'll see this in party finders: 'Only join if you can prove you can do dps XXX amount'. We never want that to happen."

    AHAHAHAHAAHGHAGHAGLHGLHAGLH GALHGLKHKLSDHG KLJKLSDJ WELL
    What can we say. The man was right. The prophecy proved itself to be true. And it's exactly why it'll never officially be in game. You can all see right there that that kind of behavior irritates him. But unfortunately no matter how much people kick and scream, that behavior always without fail always comes hand-in-hand with public parsing. Just report it when you spot it. Yah people will cry and type up novels about why they should be able to do exactly what Yoshi has said multiple times now that he hates. But you have the right of way, so it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to take that person down for demanding that in-game which is stupid and begging for a ban to begin with. Idk why people are so determined to do crimes openly-what is this, san francisco. Jeez. -and if this post makes anyone who doesnt post public pfs asking for parse logs still seethe regardless, then you're tripping your own bike with a stick and I need you to stop that.
    Yea definitely, you have the right of way into every static. If someone refuses to make you part of their static report them, I'm sure that'll make it much easier to get into that group and it will definitely lead to a healthy group dynamic. OP is trying to apply for a static, not just some random PF for whatever savage floor or ex trial. That makes a huge difference.
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  9. #39
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    YoshiP: "That system will be the root of bullying. I'm 100% confident in that. I know you'll see this in party finders: 'Only join if you can prove you can do dps XXX amount'. We never want that to happen."

    AHAHAHAHAAHGHAGHAGLHGLHAGLH GALHGLKHKLSDHG KLJKLSDJ WELL
    What can we say. The man was right. The prophecy proved itself to be true. And it's exactly why it'll never officially be in game. You can all see right there that that kind of behavior irritates him. But unfortunately no matter how much people kick and scream, that behavior always without fail always comes hand-in-hand with public parsing. Just report it when you spot it. Yah people will cry and type up novels about why they should be able to do exactly what Yoshi has said multiple times now that he hates. But you have the right of way, so it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to take that person down for demanding that in-game which is stupid and begging for a ban to begin with. Idk why people are so determined to do crimes openly-what is this, san francisco. Jeez. -and if this post makes anyone who doesnt post public pfs asking for parse logs still seethe regardless, then you're tripping your own bike with a stick and I need you to stop that.
    Serious static recruitment is done pretty much exclusively through Discord. And unlike some forum users, Yoshida realizes that he has no power there.

    No matter how much he might dislike something, he will never manage to force players into grouping with someone they don't want to group with. Neither should he be able to.
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  10. #40
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    YoshiP: "That system will be the root of bullying. I'm 100% confident in that. I know you'll see this in party finders: 'Only join if you can prove you can do dps XXX amount'. We never want that to happen."

    AHAHAHAHAAHGHAGHAGLHGLHAGLH GALHGLKHKLSDHG KLJKLSDJ WELL
    What can we say. The man was right. The prophecy proved itself to be true. And it's exactly why it'll never officially be in game. You can all see right there that that kind of behavior irritates him. But unfortunately no matter how much people kick and scream, that behavior always without fail always comes hand-in-hand with public parsing. Just report it when you spot it. Yah people will cry and type up novels about why they should be able to do exactly what Yoshi has said multiple times now that he hates. But you have the right of way, so it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to take that person down for demanding that in-game which is stupid and begging for a ban to begin with. Idk why people are so determined to do crimes openly-what is this, san francisco. Jeez. -and if this post makes anyone who doesnt post public pfs asking for parse logs still seethe regardless, then you're tripping your own bike with a stick and I need you to stop that.
    My eyes have never rolled so hard in my life.

    The amount of casual-ness radiating from this statement alone is astonishing.
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