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    Player
    kejakalope's Avatar
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    Calith Thrace
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 90
    About the only ways they can tell you're using a parser is if you either

    a) post video of yourself using one, which they will usually ignore unless given a reason not to, but since they can hit you on the technicality if they want to, I do not suggest doing this

    or

    b) you straight up admit in-game that you are using a parser, as in the sentence "I'm looking at your numbers on my parser and your DPS is shit bro." This is an excellent way to commit account seppuku with a GM serving as your kaishakunin and I extremely suggest not doing this.
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    Minnel Mimi
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kejakalope View Post
    b) you straight up admit in-game that you are using a parser, as in the sentence "I'm looking at your numbers on my parser and your DPS is shit bro." This is an excellent way to commit account seppuku with a GM serving as your kaishakunin and I extremely suggest not doing this.
    As ridiculous as this sounds, all they have to say is that they added up all your damage with calculator and the dps was shit. They might get temp ban for harrassment but nothing parsing related offense lol.
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Not all statics care about this and you could always make your own that doesn't.
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Apply anyways and say you don't have logs, but are willing to do a trial run of an EX or something with them to prove competency. I run a hardcore static and we have two PS4 users who did just that.

    Worst that can happen is that they decline you. In which case you did not want to be in that static anyways.
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    If they are recruiting and you have no logs to present, the best way for them to gauge your performance is for them to play with you. Ask them to consider you in a test/trial run with current Extreme trials.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 12-30-2021 at 04:49 PM.
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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Edie Ul'mehdi
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawuhawuu View Post
    Hello,

    I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments. I've cleared the previous raid tier but I don't have the logs.

    Is this never intended to be enforced and just a blanket policy with no action ever intended to be taken?

    I find this a massive advantage to PC user since I don't have the option available on playstation. I don't have the ability to see if I'm improving or if my gear setup makes a difference. I'm not asking to parse but a self dps meter for consoles would make a giant difference in being competetive. Currently the only available method to test my damage is the target dummy trials but in 3 minutes it can be heavily skewed by crits/dh and the times can vary by a lot.

    Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?
    1. Parsing Data is okay, but they should not be making it a requirement and they're welcoming hell fire from GMs by doing that.

    2. They could however circumvent that and actually offer to do a trial run with you of an EX to see how you stack up, just remember in this situation you are consenting to them parsing you and accepting they will make a decision on that Data. As long as they're cordial and you're okay with that, that could be an Avenue for you.

    3. However if you do agree and they get nasty about your performance using the data, then do report them as they're not trying to be helpful or build on the raiding community, they're just using the parser as an attempt to gate keep and that is not allowed..


    Hope that helps!
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    Hawuhawuu's Avatar
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    Hawuhawuu Zhwan
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    1. Parsing Data is okay, but they should not be making it a requirement and they're welcoming hell fire from GMs by doing that.

    2. They could however circumvent that and actually offer to do a trial run with you of an EX to see how you stack up, just remember in this situation you are consenting to them parsing you and accepting they will make a decision on that Data. As long as they're cordial and you're okay with that, that could be an Avenue for you.

    3. However if you do agree and they get nasty about your performance using the data, then do report them as they're not trying to be helpful or build on the raiding community, they're just using the parser as an attempt to gate keep and that is not allowed..


    Hope that helps!
    I'm pro parse and would never report someone for stating the truth. It comes to a point where if you don't carry your weight you can't beat a dps check. I would gladly welcome all feedback if it helps me improve both positive and negative. It's an amazing tool for self improvement. I get a bit salty for the fact that I don't have the ability to improve at all times only in very few moments when logs are available.

    The trial run is a good idea. I guess would have limit myself to ex2 since ninja is kinda broken in the first one with the binding locking it out of attacking which lines up with trick attack windows.
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    1. Parsing Data is okay, but they should not be making it a requirement and they're welcoming hell fire from GMs by doing that.

    2. They could however circumvent that and actually offer to do a trial run with you of an EX to see how you stack up, just remember in this situation you are consenting to them parsing you and accepting they will make a decision on that Data. As long as they're cordial and you're okay with that, that could be an Avenue for you.

    3. However if you do agree and they get nasty about your performance using the data, then do report them as they're not trying to be helpful or build on the raiding community, they're just using the parser as an attempt to gate keep and that is not allowed..


    Hope that helps!
    I love the irony here. Players are gatekeeping by using parse data as constructive criticism yet reporting potential statics you applied to, and who took the time to give you a trial totally isn't scummy behavior. Anything and every excuse imaginable, I guess...

    Allow me to let you in on a secret. The two most popular sources for static recruitment by a enormous margin are Discord and Reddit. Both of which are entirely outside of a GM's reach should they require logs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawuhawuu View Post
    I'm pro parse and would never report someone for stating the truth. It comes to a point where if you don't carry your weight you can't beat a dps check. I would gladly welcome all feedback if it helps me improve both positive and negative. It's an amazing tool for self improvement. I get a bit salty for the fact that I don't have the ability to improve at all times only in very few moments when logs are available.

    The trial run is a good idea. I guess would have limit myself to ex2 since ninja is kinda broken in the first one with the binding locking it out of attacking which lines up with trick attack windows.
    If you have any PC friends who fancy doing EXs, you could ask them to parse you. Otherwise, your best option is joining "barse" parties. One thing I can suggest is logging multiple jobs if you're open to being flexible within your role. That can really help give you an edge on other potential statics. If nothing else, spam the new normal mode raids a bunch. You'll inevitably get things uploaded by someone.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 12-30-2021 at 05:28 PM.
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    Yamr3's Avatar
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    Character
    Colette Stormseeker
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    There's usually to always some group in Party Finder that's doing a parse run. Parsing is only against the rules when you use it as a means to ruin someone else's gameplay experience. So, join a run, get the job done, check to see if it's there, improve, apply to statics, and move on.
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