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    Yamr3's Avatar
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    Colette Stormseeker
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    They really aren't using a fallacy. In the ACT video from Yoshi-P, he literally uses calculators and Excel as similar examples where people could ask if they are "third party tools".


    So, how would you figure out the going average, above average, and best are doing without a parser?
    You.. don't. Someone somewhere, is going to have a website with a leaderboard for best times of doing something, like Speedrunners. You post your time, probably with a video. Said website probably has a average and a leaderboard for it and people will base how fast you DPS'd the Training Dummy down. Then people will call for removing training dummies because people are using it how people are using parsing.
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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    That's a bit ambiguous. What are some other hurdles that would be introduced? The worst case scenario I can see is they take the player along on some runs, using those outings to decide whether they're a fit for their static or not, and then declining them membership on the team. How exactly is that a greater evil?
    Well, in reality, if you're approaching this from a non-parse stance, you would be coming from a place where you don't even know which classes do more damage, which do less. What gear to wear, food to eat, or materia to meld (do you want crit? det? tenacity for tank right? spell speed for healer maybe?). We wouldn't really know if healer dps is required (the dps in the group just might be bad?), etc. etc. The list goes on quite a bit
    In that world, hitting enrage would be frequent and nobody would know why. Finding a candidate on par with the skill level of the group would be really hard. Sure your candidate survived the mechanics.. That's kinda the minimum effort really. But what of their output?
    As a result, the worst that could happen is pulling in a candidate that would lead you to enrages for a long time. And you might not even know it's them. Group disbands from frustration and rince and repeat.

    One could make the argument that you would measure people's worth based on striking dummies/kill time and enmity. But then you're just trading "that BLM sucks because he does 4k dps" with "that BLM sucks because he didn't kill x in 30s" or "because he's below the ninja on the enmity list (if you even figured out blm should be above nin in the first place)".
    Might as well use a parser.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 12-31-2021 at 06:50 AM.

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