Parsing unfair but okay?

[SaberMaxwell]

Without meikyo I cannot do kasha gekko yukikaze in a row for a quick midare.

[YukikoKurosawa]

Without meikyo I cannot do kasha gekko yukikaze in a row for a quick midare.

Meikyo Shisui would be useful if you knew an invuln phase was coming up quicker than you could get through the entire combo so you could get to your stronger attacks faster.

Hagakure would be useful if you weren't stacked on kenki during an above invuln phase but had a few sen. Useful I would imagine if your group's buff window was going to come up when the invuln phase was finished so that you could go into your stronger attacks during the buff window, especially if you had intentionally used more of the resource right before the invuln phase knowing you would be able to use Hagakure at least 3 times during the invuln phase.

Ok that makes sense actually. Just tested with them on training dummy and I see the usage now. Though, Hagakure seems very situational, and my lack of use of it not likely to be the reason for my green parses.

Also, in regards to LB3, it's extremely stupid if I'm losing parses over it. It doesn't break my combos to use so it shouldn't matter. Though, now I see why there's always dps in my groups who refuse to LB even when it's perfectly reasonable to do so.

[Seera1024]

Ok that makes sense actually. Just tested with them on training dummy and I see the usage now. Though, Hagakure seems very situational, and my lack of use of it not likely to be the reason for my green parses.

Also, in regards to LB3, it's extremely stupid if I'm losing parses over it. It doesn't break my combos to use so it shouldn't matter. Though, now I see why there's always dps in my groups who refuse to LB even when it's perfectly reasonable to do so.

It's a dip in DPS that any smart static leader will be able to go "ah, that's why the drop there" and will move on and not use that dip against you solely because you used the LB3. If you use your LB3 in the middle of your high burst phase, the LB3 could lower your DPS. So wait until the end of the burst phase unless you believe the boss will die before you get it off otherwise. And then maybe it won't ding you or as much.

As for others not using it, it simply could be that they normally play a caster DPS or tank or heal and are on a melee class they haven't played in a while and forgot they can. Or they got absorbed in their rotation and forgot to use the LB3. And if you're a melee and the other DPS are either ranged or caster, they're likely expecting you to LB3. Heck even if there are other melees. They may be thinking you'll LB3. I primarily play Black Mage so my LB usage is mainly an LB1 trash pulls and not the LB3 - though I will take it if offered.

[YukikoKurosawa]

It's a dip in DPS that any smart static leader will be able to go "ah, that's why the drop there" and will move on and not use that dip against you solely because you used the LB3. If you use your LB3 in the middle of your high burst phase, the LB3 could lower your DPS. So wait until the end of the burst phase unless you believe the boss will die before you get it off otherwise. And then maybe it won't ding you or as much.

As for others not using it, it simply could be that they normally play a caster DPS or tank or heal and are on a melee class they haven't played in a while and forgot they can. Or they got absorbed in their rotation and forgot to use the LB3. And if you're a melee and the other DPS are either ranged or caster, they're likely expecting you to LB3. Heck even if there are other melees. They may be thinking you'll LB3. I primarily play Black Mage so my LB usage is mainly an LB1 trash pulls and not the LB3 - though I will take it if offered.

I always LB even if I'm a Black Mage, unless we need a tank or healer LB, or if I just feel like being generous and letting another dps have it. I once had a party member in an alliance raid, after I used it on the first boss, tell me I should never use it ever as a BLM because it does marginally less dps than melee LB3.

I just said "K". Then did it again the next boss. I think I used BLM LB3 every single boss that run (we never needed a mass rez or defensive). And yet, we still downed every boss with no wipes or problems at all. What miniscule difference between BLM LB3 and melee LB3 is not worth caring about. Dps LB3 is pretty much just for lulz, the only time LB3 matters is when you need the healer or tank LB.

[AziraSyuren]

Ok that makes sense actually. Just tested with them on training dummy and I see the usage now. Though, Hagakure seems very situational, and my lack of use of it not likely to be the reason for my green parses.

Also, in regards to LB3, it's extremely stupid if I'm losing parses over it. It doesn't break my combos to use so it shouldn't matter. Though, now I see why there's always dps in my groups who refuse to LB even when it's perfectly reasonable to do so.

Bless your heart for actually listening.

[Seera1024]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

Meikyo Shisui would be useful if you knew an invuln phase was coming up quicker than you could get through the entire combo so you could get to your stronger attacks faster.

Hagakure would be useful if you weren't stacked on kenki during an above invuln phase but had a few sen. Useful I would imagine if your group's buff window was going to come up when the invuln phase was finished so that you could go into your stronger attacks during the buff window, especially if you had intentionally used more of the resource right before the invuln phase knowing you would be able to use Hagakure at least 3 times during the invuln phase.

And that's just random thinking from someone who's never touched Samurai so take what I said with a grain of salt.

As for LB3 fussing, like with all tools, it has it's weaknesses and limitations. Another instance where it's not perfect is if you have to use a low potancy skill or not attack due to mechanics, it will fuss no matter which option you pick. It's why the analyzer does put the stuff in timeline so you can get a feel for where in a fight something happened so you can look at it and figure out if it's something for you to work on or a limitation of the tool.

[van_arn]

It's a dip in DPS that any smart static leader will be able to go "ah, that's why the drop there" and will move on and not use that dip against you solely because you used the LB3. If you use your LB3 in the middle of your high burst phase, the LB3 could lower your DPS. So wait until the end of the burst phase unless you believe the boss will die before you get it off otherwise. And then maybe it won't ding you or as much.

As for others not using it, it simply could be that they normally play a caster DPS or tank or heal and are on a melee class they haven't played in a while and forgot they can. Or they got absorbed in their rotation and forgot to use the LB3. And if you're a melee and the other DPS are either ranged or caster, they're likely expecting you to LB3. Heck even if there are other melees. They may be thinking you'll LB3. I primarily play Black Mage so my LB usage is mainly an LB1 trash pulls and not the LB3 - though I will take it if offered.

It’s written in the contract every melee secretly signs. If there are multiple melee players, the one doing the least damage has the shameful responsibility of using lb3.

It’s why melee players fight so hard to top damage. They don’t want to be the one shamed with the lb3 duty.

[BristolRuss]

It’s written in the contract every melee secretly signs. If there are multiple melee players, the one doing the least damage has the shameful responsibility of using lb3.

It’s why melee players fight so hard to top damage. They don’t want to be the one shamed with the lb3 duty.

^ this guy knows.

[Rilifane]

It’s written in the contract every melee secretly signs. If there are multiple melee players, the one doing the least damage has the shameful responsibility of using lb3.

It’s why melee players fight so hard to top damage. They don’t want to be the one shamed with the lb3 duty.

If it looks nice, I volunteer to do it the moment I'm back in my 123 wet noodle phase.
DRG LB3? 100% mine, don't even try to snatch it. I don't care if someone was floor tanking while I was top DPS, that LB3 is mine.
When I'm on RDM, just wait for the next mechanic with lots of markers and you're guaranteed to get my flashy shameful responsibility burned into your retina forever.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Ok that makes sense actually. Just tested with them on training dummy and I see the usage now. Though, Hagakure seems very situational, and my lack of use of it not likely to be the reason for my green parses.

Back in ShB, Hagakure used to be an important part to keep SAM’s 60 rotation loops perfectly depending on how fast is your GCD under your own haste (Shifu) buff. This involves keeping Higanbana uptime, keeping Meikyou & Tsubame on cooldown, aligning with other important cooldowns such as Ikishoten & Senei/Guren. Done correctly, and you’ll always execute all those abilities as they come off cooldown. Coincidentally, 60 seconds is also when your other party member most buffs and debuffs goes out so you’ll also gain the benefit of snapshotting your high damage phase into the raidbuff window.

In EW, an orange percentile SAM-geek in my FCmate mentioned they don’t really change too much gameplay wise, but I imagine Hagakure will still be used in similar fashion.