Parsing unfair but okay?

[HyoMinPark]

This could be be a me problem because I am an ESL. But I gotta ask ... is English such a limited language that the word "discrimination" need to be used so frequently? In my own language it's a heavy and critical word, reserved for serious social problem only. Not something liberally threw around whenever someone don't get their way ... in a video game no less.

But like I said, maybe that's just me.

It is not. However, it has become a popular buzzword people like to throw around. To the point it is beginning to lose its meaningfulness.

What the OP is describing isn’t discrimination—it’s a static laying down basic requirements for any applicants to their group; which is common for a lot of statics, and especially ones that consider themselves to be higher-tier (which it seems like this is what the OP is aiming for). I’m assuming they are using “discrimination” to refer to how PS4/PS5 players are unable to run a parser on their own, but that’s never stopped console raiders from being decent players. They just have to rely on other to upload the actual log, but the website tools that are actively used in bettering one’s performance are as available to console players as they are PC players.

[Dracosavarian]

OP:

Try and use the FFXIV community finder tools to pull what you need, or form a community and a team yourself, as intimidating as that may be.

My group runs Extremes and high end content successfully all the time. None of us use parsers. We don’t need them. We just all hop on discord together and run the content and communicate and joke and laugh and have a good time.

You can also use duty finder and set parameters in it to meet your needs. I usually put in comments for folks to not dash off as soon as they manage to secure a mount, but to help a bit after they get theirs. It works pretty well.


Parsing isn’t a hard set requirement for end game, and you can find groups that don’t require it. I wish you luck, and happy hunting.

[Caurcas]

Don't fear the parse. Just get a PC bro to run some content with you and upload it. Also for the nay sayers, isn't being casual enough for you? Why are you trying to ruin content you are unlikely to ever participate in?

[Undeadfire]

No matter how much SE puts bans on ACT, there's nothing SE can really do to stop raiders using it, regardless of rules they will use it anyway. It's illegal for SE to spy on peoples PCs if they have ACT. If they come with a program to counter it, the community will come with a way to get around it, it's an endless and pointless battle.

It's there to help job optimising, player evaluating, and stops raid groups from wasting their time with traps and trolls. High/Top tier raid groups only seek players on their skill levels, or higher, they're not interested in random players wanting to raid, nor argue. Perform what they're looking for, or talk is over.

[BaconBits]

Don't fear the parse. Just get a PC bro to run some content with you and upload it. Also for the nay sayers, isn't being casual enough for you? Why are you trying to ruin content you are unlikely to ever participate in?

Because fear mongering and stereotyping an entire community as elitists because they ran into a few jerkwads is easier than expecting even basic competency from other people in a team based game. And yet if you point out the bad apples on their side of the fence, they'll be just as quick to cry "Oh they're not actually part of OUR community" while simultaneously painting the other side as big bad bullies without even realizing just how hypocritical that is.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

Imagine being so afraid of a calculator.

Blaise Pascal would roll over in his grave.

[Gyson]

Hello,

I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments. I've cleared the previous raid tier but I don't have the logs.

Is this never intended to be enforced and just a blanket policy with no action ever intended to be taken?

I find this a massive advantage to PC user since I don't have the option available on playstation. I don't have the ability to see if I'm improving or if my gear setup makes a difference. I'm not asking to parse but a self dps meter for consoles would make a giant difference in being competetive. Currently the only available method to test my damage is the target dummy trials but in 3 minutes it can be heavily skewed by crits/dh and the times can vary by a lot.

Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?

I think the thing people should be focusing on is that the original poster is having a difficult time finding a static because other players are expecting them to provide parser logs showing their performance.

Let's pretend third-party parse tools just didn't work in this game, and so they simply weren't something our community could use. Can we all agree that would remove the current hurdle the original poster is facing?

So, for this player, essentially a third party tool is creating a barrier for access. Isn't that the whole problem with parsing tools the developers wanted to avoid?

A static group requiring parse logs is a long way away from using a parser to harmlessly monitor your own performance for the purpose of self-improvement.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

I think the thing people should be focusing on is that the original poster is having a difficult time finding a static because other players are expecting them to provide parser logs showing their performance.

Let's pretend third-party parse tools just didn't work in this game, and so they simply weren't something our community could use. Can we all agree that would remove the current hurdle the original poster is facing?

So, for this player, essentially a third party tool is creating a barrier for access. Isn't that the whole problem with parsing tools the developers wanted to avoid?

A static group requiring parse logs is a long way away from using a parser to harmlessly monitor your own performance.

If we're going that route, topic is already solved and should just be closed. Question was answered by various people.

Utilize party finder. Communicate with the people posting the PF. Be communicative, open, and on the lookout. Join a learning party first. Etc, etc, etc.

[EaMett]

I think the thing people should be focusing on is that the original poster is having a difficult time finding a static because other players are expecting them to provide parser logs showing their performance.

Let's pretend third-party parse tools just didn't work in this game, and so they simply weren't something our community could use. Can we all agree that would remove the current hurdle the original poster is facing?

So, for this player, essentially a third party tool is creating a barrier for access. Isn't that the whole problem with parsing tools the developers wanted to avoid?

A static group requiring parse logs is a long way away from using a parser to harmlessly monitor your own performance for the purpose of self-improvement.

It would remove the current hurdle and introduce a bunch of other ones. It's really a matter of choosing your poison.
Making sure your static is made up of members with equivalent skill tiers is, in my opinion, the lesser of two evils.

[Lauren]

Hello,

I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments. I've cleared the previous raid tier but I don't have the logs.

Is this never intended to be enforced and just a blanket policy with no action ever intended to be taken?

I find this a massive advantage to PC user since I don't have the option available on playstation. I don't have the ability to see if I'm improving or if my gear setup makes a difference. I'm not asking to parse but a self dps meter for consoles would make a giant difference in being competetive. Currently the only available method to test my damage is the target dummy trials but in 3 minutes it can be heavily skewed by crits/dh and the times can vary by a lot.

Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?

Searching your name on FFlogs, you have parses for Shadowbringers. However the majority are in post-Echo and you have parsed quite low. Have a lookie through what you cast and it should help you improve ♥