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    Hawuhawuu's Avatar
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    Hawuhawuu Zhwan
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    Lamia
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    Parsing unfair but okay?

    Hello,

    I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments. I've cleared the previous raid tier but I don't have the logs.

    Is this never intended to be enforced and just a blanket policy with no action ever intended to be taken?

    I find this a massive advantage to PC user since I don't have the option available on playstation. I don't have the ability to see if I'm improving or if my gear setup makes a difference. I'm not asking to parse but a self dps meter for consoles would make a giant difference in being competetive. Currently the only available method to test my damage is the target dummy trials but in 3 minutes it can be heavily skewed by crits/dh and the times can vary by a lot.

    Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?
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    Join a parse run for one of the current EXes in party finder -- they're up all the time. Someone else will get the logs for you.
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    ryouma17's Avatar
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    Haven Belle
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawuhawuu View Post
    Hello,

    I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments

    parsing and mods/addons in general are against the rules so just report any such group you find
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    parsing and mods/addons in general are against the rules so just report any such group you find
    Those kind of groups are usually advertised on Discord and so on. And the OP blatantly reporting them will result in them having an even harder time finding a group. A solid chunk of statics are pro-parse and will openly mention it. And I don’t think reporting people in your static for a commonplace practice in midcore hardcore groups is a good idea.

    I can see how from a casual perspective this seems like a good idea. But not from a raiders perspective. Tbh - since I vc a fair amount in Discord while raiding I’d probably end up cussing someone out for reporting one of my teammates for that.
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    ArkenaeuxBelmont's Avatar
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    Arkenaux Belmont
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    parsing and mods/addons in general are against the rules so just report any such group you find
    Here we go again. Show us on the doll where the bad parser touched you.

    If you harass someone using the parsing data as the reason, that's an offense. You will be disciplined because you harassed someone. The reason you would be banned would be for harassment, not because of the parser, because SE cannot in any way prove you have a parser. They cannot see what is running on your system, in any way shape or form.

    Harassing people = Bad
    Looking at numbers and not harassing people = Fine

    To the OP:

    Like the above stated, join a PF EX run. Or, speak to one of those groups recruiting and explain your situation. Generally one of the group will be a recruiter and would take you on a PF EX run or something equivalent to get data to see.

    It does need to be said, that if you in any way get harassed about it, the harassment is a reportable offense.
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    Calith Thrace
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    Running parsers is against the letter but not the spirit of the game and thus is generally something Square turns a blind eye to.

    Disparaging other players based on parser data, or demanding they use parsers, is against both the letter and spirit of the game, and a GM will take action if you report someone for doing so.
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    How fast this will descent into a pointless discussion if using parser is banable or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    How fast this will descent into a pointless discussion if using parser is banable or not?
    It already did.

    Pass me some of that popcorn. I already said my piece.
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont View Post
    Here we go again. Show us on the doll where the bad parser touched you.

    If you harass someone using the parsing data as the reason, that's an offense. You will be disciplined because you harassed someone. The reason you would be banned would be for harassment, not because of the parser, because SE cannot in any way prove you have a parser. They cannot see what is running on your system, in any way shape or form.

    Harassing people = Bad
    Looking at numbers and not harassing people = Fine
    Actually:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6mjiGerU

    - That is their stance on parsers. That's Yoshi-P talking into the camera right there.

    What people think of them, for or against. Harassment or not - all of that is of no consequence.


    That noted... if you join a parsing run and somebody else does the parsing and gives you a link to your results, send that to whoever you're applying to.
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    Last edited by Makeda; 12-30-2021 at 04:14 PM.

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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    The midcore to hardcore casuals are about to come in.

    I can smell it.

    That and popcorn.

    Edit; It’s also against ToS to use Discord but I’ll keep utilizing it as a tool to improve my gameplay experience.
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    Last edited by xxmiamorecadenza; 12-30-2021 at 04:14 PM.

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