Let's talk Scholar: Changes, Class fantasy and Abilities

[Haptory]

Scholar didn't get many changes in the Endwalker. It got some few additions to the class, but other then that its lot of the same as it was in Shadowbringers. My understanding/interpretation of the Scholar Class fantasy is "as a Scholar you study endlessly to find the best suitable action to take in any situation to prevent harm to yourself and your allies while having the powers of a corporeal fey at you will". Having said that I have a few topic's, changes and ideas I like to present

First ability I would like to integrate into other abilities seeing as most Scholars find it hard to use is "Dissipation". its clunky to use because 50-60% of your tool kit is linked to your fey. so i would like to split up into "Summon Seraph" & "Aetherflow"
First you add increases healing magic potency by 20% to Summon Seraph.
Second, you make "Aetherflow" usable outside of combat (as it was in Stormblood).
This makes "Summon Seraph" a more useful ability than it is now and it has a bigger impact on healing checks in boss fights as for "Aeatherflow" it makes it a lot easier to prep for a fight and you can always have it on cooldown so you can press it every 60 seconds.

Second ability I want to change is "Aetherpact" nothing too big, but I think it would be nice to have a little buff with 5% more damage reduction of the target when it is active to really make use of the ability when pulling larger packs in dungeons or tank is taking repeatable damage. (name of the buff could be "Fey Protection")

Third is "Chain Stratagem" stacking with other Scholars "Chain Stratagem". It has come to a point were Scholars that are in the same group are walking on eggshells around eachothers its the worst feeling in the world to overwrite a Chain Stratagem to a fellow scholar know full well that you have taken away 15s of Increases rate at which target takes critical hits by 10%.

And the forth is just an idea I would love to see added to ffxiv the customisation of your fey. Seeing as Selene and Eos have the same abilities and are basically just two different colored fey (since Shadowbringers) I would like to have an option of choosing both the color and the hairstyle of the fey I summon. Seeing as no one in the story or in the game ever mentions your fey/fairy (except in the scholar quest line when you get them). I would like to make it match the scholar that I am. Every scholar obtains different information and knowledge so it would fit my class fantasy perfectly.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Scholar didn't get many changes in the Endwalker. It got some few additions to the class, but other then that its lot of the same as it was in Shadowbringers. My understanding/interpretation of the Scholar Class fantasy is "as a Scholar you study endlessly to find the best suitable action to take in any situation to prevent harm to yourself and your allies while having the powers of a corporeal fey at you will". ----

Seeing as no one in the story or in the game ever mentions your fey/fairy (except in the scholar quest line when you get them). I would like to make it match the scholar that I am. Every scholar obtains different information and knowledge so it would fit my class fantasy perfectly.

Dissipation really isn't that hard to be honest. It's purpose is to increase your dps (if you feel safe) via Energy drain dumping especially while under a chain strategem. Other than that just make sure you have used fey illumination/whispering dawn before you pop dissipation and you will be mostly fine, as long as you didn't NEED fey union for some reason.

Your suggestion really sounds broken and will push a already disgustingly good class over the edge probably with changes it doesn't need. Buffing seraph's heal is not the move the shield is already a great ogcd to weave and by buffing it it will just make it outclass succor always etc.

Lets not bring back the days of pre pull aetherflow opners/waiting for aetherflow to come back up after a party wipe. It was removed for a reason.

Randomly buffing fey union, which is already a amazing targeted heal on tank's especially by giving it a damage reduction is too much. They already are getting damage reduction from sacred soil and now expedient, not to mention the bonus hp from protraction. But having a spammable zero cooldown 5% damage reduction is absolutely broken.

Stacking chain feels bad, but it is overcome by actually having a "conversation" with the other scholar. "Hey man I'm going to use my chain first? Okay!" I consider this a skill based thing, although conversation is really simple. I would have to see this become over simplified for no reason other than to prevent people from having a conversation.

The last one I could see, but I would hate to see dev's waste resources on something like this when there are other things to address like the current state of dark knight. All in all, I think what you are suggesting might be a result of not reaching level 90 on scholar and realizing how disgusting the class is at 90 first. You should revisit this post after you hit 90 and play around at that level for a while.

[RinaShinomiya]

I'd rather have Energy drain work exactly like it does on summoner to justify it being combat only or make Aetherflow build up automatically and get rid of the button alltogether.
Dissipation as a DPS skill hinges on ED existing which only really exists because Scholar would have a Aetherflow overstacking problem and since Aetherflow is tied to Fey gauge its a bigger problem than it is on Sage. Id rather untie the fey gauge from Aetherflow abilities, get rid of ED and overhaul Dissipation to be an actual DPS ability instead of this wishy washy "GCD heals are getting boosted but we restore your ogcd resources instead" the skill just doesnt make much sense if ED doesnt exist and even then 3 ED make up for 1 Broil.
I'd also make it so adlo becomes instant cast when used under Recitation. It feels unneceserily clunky compared to SGE doing the same with ZoE & Eukrasian Diagnosis.

I'd also prefer if the fairy didnt have to be summoned every time the scholar dies & enters an instance. It wastes a GCD and a hotbar button for no reason. Yes the fairy doesnt get afflicted by post death weakness but i don't think thats a good tradeoff. On that note, proper fey glamour would be much welcome. Losing all access to Carbuncles once hitting level 30 is just weird and a bigger fey variety would also be welcome.

[Tobalito]

I love scholar to death... but after playing Sage... the fact we have to sacrifice about 85% of our healing toolkit to compete in damage is not good design..

[Halfgeeek]

First ability I would like to integrate into other abilities seeing as most Scholars find it hard to use is "Dissipation".

Dissipation is a great cooldown. I seriously don't get the hate that it gets, and it being the major reason for people to say SCH is "clunky" or a job that "fights itself".

How hard is it to use it after you've already blown your Fairy heals?

Or during the end of a pull, so that Fairy returns at the start of the new pull?

Or during approach of boss phase transitions, giving you ample time to wait for the 30s return timer to keep on ticking.

People have been complaining about how simple healers are, and Dissipation is one of those powerful abilities that requires thought to use well, and the masses seem to crap on it because they can't figure out how that skill can benefit them..

[Halfgeeek]

I love scholar to death... but after playing Sage... the fact we have to sacrifice about 85% of our healing toolkit to compete in damage is not good design..

Are you doing speed runs where losing 100 potency energy drains to healing oGCDs is that big a deal?

We're at the start of a new xpac, and SCH is already #2 rDPS.

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...&class=Healers

On a healer with a raid buff that scales better as people improve their own DPS through gear & optimizations. It's not as sad as many of you make it out to be.

Remember pre-EW, where so many called SCH doomed, obsolete by SGE, without anything worthwhile & good in EW? Yeah, I do, it wasn't that long ago. Turns out SCH is fine.

[Kabzy]

Are you doing speed runs where losing 100 potency energy drains to healing oGCDs is that big a deal?

We're at the start of a new xpac, and SCH is already #2 rDPS.

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...&class=Healers

On a healer with a raid buff that scales better as people improve their own DPS through gear & optimizations. It's not as sad as many of you make it out to be.

Remember pre-EW, where so many called SCH doomed, obsolete by SGE, without anything worthwhile & good in EW? Yeah, I do, it wasn't that long ago. Turns out SCH is fine.

I think you're being a little dramatic, they didn't even bring numbers into this.

SCH is fine as you've mentioned, but it doesn't take away from the fact that SGE gets to do everything SCH can and also use their OGCDs for multiple scenarios for a GAIN in MP. While for SCH using AF healing abilities is the opposite. It's not the end of the world, and the job is doing fine, but you can hardly call it good design for a game that is so heavily DPS based. People have rarely complained about the viability of SCH, it's always been about clunky design and simply not feeling anywhere near as satisfying as it's 2.x/3.x iterations.

[Halfgeeek]

SCH is fine as you've mentioned, but it doesn't take away from the fact that SGE gets to do everything SCH can and also use their OGCDs for multiple scenarios for a GAIN in MP. While for SCH using AF healing abilities is the opposite. It's not the end of the world, and the job is doing fine, but you can hardly call it good design for a game that is so heavily DPS based. People have rarely complained about the viability of SCH, it's always been about clunky design and simply not feeling anywhere near as satisfying as it's 2.x/3.x iterations.

SGE gains 7% MP per AG oGCD, 21% per minute. SCH gains 20% MP just with AF. Not that different. SCH just has options to its 3 AF spenders, and yes, it's good that it's optional to use it for healing if required, or extra DPS if not. Not that the extra DPS of ED makes much difference in the grand scheme of things. :/

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Dissipation is a great cooldown. I seriously don't get the hate that it gets, and it being the major reason for people to say SCH is "clunky" or a job that "fights itself".

How hard is it to use it after you've already blown your Fairy heals?

Or during the end of a pull, so that Fairy returns at the start of the new pull?

Or during approach of boss phase transitions, giving you ample time to wait for the 30s return timer to keep on ticking.

People have been complaining about how simple healers are, and Dissipation is one of those powerful abilities that requires thought to use well, and the masses seem to crap on it because they can't figure out how that skill can benefit them..

Couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s a skill that requires pre-planning and isn’t obvious on when to use it all the time sorta like Vayne condemn

[Kabzy]

SGE gains 7% MP per AG oGCD, 21% per minute. SCH gains 20% MP just with AF. Not that different. SCH just has options to its 3 AF spenders, and yes, it's good that it's optional to use it for healing if required, or extra DPS if not. Not that the extra DPS of ED makes much difference in the grand scheme of things. :/

Again, you're going with all numbers. People who actually play SCH in endgame content know that it isn't lacking in any way whatsoever in regards to viability. The issue comes in the satisfaction derived from its kit. To play optimally, a SCH won't cast shields other than consolation, and will never use an AF heal unless absolutely necessary. We are healers at the end of the day, and SGE actually being able to use the majority of its kit without any drawbacks is much better design.

You're debating something different and completely missing the point here. Our DPS already took a massive hit compared to the other healers, and even the healing kit either doesn't synergise or isn't optimal to use. I think SCH is nicer in 6.0 than it was in 5.x, but it's still bad job design.