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    A thematic idea for a new job

    Okay, so, for the longest time I dreamt up a job, that I would love to see in Final Fantasy.

    Since I am in love with that idea, I am extremely biased, so I would like to know what you think about it, even more if you dislike it.

    So, we have seen a fair share of evil bloodthirsty edgy necromancers, yes? I would like to try a different route.

    Instead of some kind of sorcerer, I imagine a necromancer more like a priest/ess, armed with a shovel.

    Instead of using the dead as their puppets, they help stuck souls to find peace by comunicating and giving them a proper burial. Especially on the battlefield I like to imagine a handful of priests and nuns silently burying the lost and easing their suffering that stops them from entering a certain place in Endwalker.

    The struggle of said necromancers could lie in the cultural differences of burying rites, the grief of those left alive, people envious about their ability to talk with the dead and being neutral between opposing sides of war, which can lead to conflicts in combat.

    I chose the shovel, because I see it as a tool first and then a weapon. With my fantasy gone wild, I would like this shovel to not only be used for digging, but also as a catalyst for earth or life based spells, but also maybe a tool to comunicate with the buried, like a receiver for aetherial waves in the ground, or something like that.

    I had this idea since I heard of bhudist monks having a shovel in their travels (correct me if this is false).

    So, what will the gameplay be like? I dont care, if someone likes the idea, they could make sense of it. I'll stop for now, please tell me what you think about it. Take it apart "xD
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    Not a fan of the shovel, but I've always wanted a dark-themed healer...even if it were functionally identical to an existing healer, like WHM just with thematically appropriate animations/particle effects.
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post

    Instead of some kind of sorcerer, I imagine a necromancer more like a priest/ess, armed with a shovel.

    Instead of using the dead as their puppets, they help stuck souls to find peace by comunicating and giving them a proper burial. Especially on the battlefield I like to imagine a handful of priests and nuns silently burying the lost and easing their suffering that stops them from entering a certain place in Endwalker.
    make their victory pose the sending ritual from ffx and im sold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Not a fan of the shovel, but I've always wanted a dark-themed healer...even if it were functionally identical to an existing healer, like WHM just with thematically appropriate animations/particle effects.
    In that case, what would you prefer?^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    make their victory pose the sending ritual from ffx and im sold
    Oooooo I love that idea!!
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    This is odd af but a Monk's spade actually could make for an interesting healer weapon. We don't have a blunt polearm weapon yet. Too bad we already have a "Monk" class that we would have to carve out design space around. But I'm not totally discarding the idea.

    Absolutely no interest in a necromancer concept. We already have DRK and RPR, I'm tired of hearing people clamor for yet more goth crap. That said, if as you say this could function as a sort of soft geomancer with some tinges of necro, I would be fine with that.

    In fact, I think maybe just making a geomancer with a monk's spade for a weapon could get us most of the way to your concept. Or maybe taking the FFX inspiration and calling it a Sender/Priest job.

    I wouldn't mind this as a job concept, actually. It has potential.
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    Last edited by SeverianLyonesse; 12-30-2021 at 03:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    This is odd af but a Monk's spade actually could make for an interesting healer weapon. We don't have a blunt polearm weapon yet. Too bad we already have a "Monk" class that we would have to carve out design space around. But I'm not totally discarding the idea.

    Absolutely no interest in a necromancer concept. We already have DRK and RPR, I'm tired of hearing people clamor for yet more goth crap. That said, if as you say this could function as a sort of soft geomancer with some tinges of necro, I would be fine with that.

    In fact, I think maybe just making a geomancer with a monk's spade for a weapon could get us most of the way to your concept. Or maybe taking the FFX inspiration and calling it a Sender/Priest job.

    I wouldn't mind this as a job concept, actually. It has potential.
    +1 for more goth crap, solely out of spite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    +1 for more goth crap, solely out of spite.
    Wait you want more goth crap, or don't want more goth crap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    Wait you want more goth crap, or don't want more goth crap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Not a fan of the shovel, but I've always wanted a dark-themed healer...even if it were functionally identical to an existing healer, like WHM just with thematically appropriate animations/particle effects.
    Same here. I love the thought of a healer that sacrifices their own health to heal their allies and then drains the life essence out of their enemies to heal themselves.

    It could also have multipliers. You sacrifice 15% of your max health to heal all nearby party members for double that amount. Or you draw life essence out if nearby enemies to heal nearby party members. You could heal for multiplier of the damage you dealt ect..

    Spell animations could be red like you're draining the blood out of them, or green for the life stream/Aether.
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