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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    /Facepalm
    Unbelievable, every words out of you are simply wrong to the core.
    Rules are not mean to be broken.
    You can keep your non sense to yourself.

    Is a rule that is not enforced really a rule to be followed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Is a rule that is not enforced really a rule to be followed?
    Depends if you have ethics, I guess. Some people value that trait, others don't care.

    It's a never ending struggle there from those who don't care for rules and will cheat to be top of the pack, and those with honour who prefer to duel clean.
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    This explain why i get attacked by ranged attacks from the other part of the map and why some ppl can heal themselves to full like 5 Times in a row without apparent reason.. and i've also seen people on mount getting attacked and not getting heavy
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Depends if you have ethics, I guess. Some people value that trait, others don't care.

    It's a never ending struggle there from those who don't care for rules and will cheat to be top of the pack, and those with honour who prefer to duel clean.
    I am sure most people have their own ethical standards they follow, so do not think it is a lack of ethics or morals but more so a difference in what people value.

    Honor may not have a value in one's system and that is why we need enforcement if we want rules to be follow we can expect people to operate on an Honor system.
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    I do feel like the lack of action towards even the PvP hackers is strongly suggestive of some underlying problem with how they go about screening for cheaters.

    If I had to guess, it's overreliance on whatever flawed detection "tools" they're using due to their low staff making in-person investigations for every single cheating report unfeasible even though such investigations would readily expose both the hackers and botters alike.

    Which is why I feel like they seriously need to outsource investigations to the GMs since we'd at least have a few people monitoring each DC that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    I deal with people that don't care to win and just want xp, now I have to deal with hackers too. Guess I'll never go back to PvP.
    PVP has long been sullied by hackers and cheaters and botters and so on. It's a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Is a rule that is not enforced really a rule to be followed?
    You are welcome to join him to make the situation worst and maybe the useless NA staffs SE hired for NA data centers will get their ass kicked by SE Tokyo suit.
    At this point, I am not mad on SE but looking low on their NA team.
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    There's a misconception that the JP side of things doesn't have issues with hackers and the like, but it was free trial bots hacking in PvP on their end of things that ended up getting trials blocked from the mode entirely, and I've seen JP players complaining about the same common RMT-related bots like treasure map/shard farmers.

    I feel like it's mostly on the STF that things are as bad as they are and the head devs would probably make sweeping changes if they had a full picture of just how prevalent cheaters have become, but they're only getting it in bits and pieces from their interviews and other media platforms that allow players to have a direct channel to them on rare occasions.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 01-01-2022 at 10:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    You are welcome to join him to make the situation worst and maybe the useless NA staffs SE hired for NA data centers will get their ass kicked by SE Tokyo suit.
    At this point, I am not mad on SE but looking low on their NA team.
    You are making the assumption that JP side of things are without bots and hackers. This is an issue across all regions so you should be be blaming SE since they sre the ones making such things possible.
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 01-01-2022 at 02:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    You are making the assumption that JP side of things are without bots and hackers. This is an issue across all regions so you should be be blaming SE since they sre the ones making such things possible.
    I don't really need you to tell me this is an issue across all region and the issue is whether there is an act on the enforcement part
    I can write report in Japanese and the difference of efficiency and response are way off between NA team and JP team.
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