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    Acquaintance's Avatar
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    Chinim Drivago
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    Housing Lottery 6.1 and beyond.

    The lottery is fair for the launch of 6.1 because anyone with an interest will have the same opportunity.

    After the initial opening of the Empyreum, I suggest that all players receive a server wide login notification or mog mail if and when a property becomes available.

    In the interest of fairness, left to the current system of checking for availability will only afford one player with a 50% chance at best. Those chances will diminish as interest grows and the lottery will be a consequence of combinatorial mathematics which renew every time a property goes up for sale.

    If all players receive fair notice, though the chances would be far less than a 1%, the chances are equal and finite every single time. Likewise, the chance can only grow as people optionally decline, rather than through lack of awareness.

    I believe the players will better receive the opportunity lost if it's shared by more people and include a satisfactory respect for the beneficiary.

    Additionally, occupants need the opportunity to relinquish their property without loss. I would suggest that the game offer advantages and rewards to the occupants if they were to relinquish their property after a duration to help stimulate an environment for people to enjoy and pass it on, but that's for another time.

    If you agree, please help this topic get where it needs to go.

    Thanks for reading!
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    Marius De'romanas
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    The non-instanced housing system is broken beyond repair.

    The only real thing the lottery system does is remove bots from the equation. (OK, it makes staying on 24/7 useless too)

    As long as they cling to "muh neighborhood feel", it won't ever be fixed. Honestly I'm not sure I believe that's the real reason, I just think they actually can't make customized instanced housing work.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    The non-instanced housing system is broken beyond repair.

    The only real thing the lottery system does is remove bots from the equation. (OK, it makes staying on 24/7 useless too)

    As long as they cling to "muh neighborhood feel", it won't ever be fixed. Honestly I'm not sure I believe that's the real reason, I just think they actually can't make customized instanced housing work.
    Actual instanced housing would require a duty queue and transfer to the instance servers. This would also mean you wouldn't be able to queue anything else while in your house, or access retainers.
    It would kinda defeat the whole point.

    But as long as housing is located on the world servers they'll always be finite in supply.

    It's catch 22.

    One thing they could do is expand apartments and they don't seem to take as much server space, due to not having a "physical" presence in a shared zone, so would pay off more than adding more wards.
    But even that will only be a temporary measuren as are every additional server they install for housing.
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Actual instanced housing would require a duty queue and transfer to the instance servers. This would also mean you wouldn't be able to queue anything else while in your house, or access retainers.
    It would kinda defeat the whole point.

    But as long as housing is located on the world servers they'll always be finite in supply.

    It's catch 22.

    One thing they could do is expand apartments and they don't seem to take as much server space, due to not having a "physical" presence in a shared zone, so would pay off more than adding more wards.
    But even that will only be a temporary measuren as are every additional server they install for housing.
    This really isn't true.

    Houses and apartments are already instanced on the inside. Unless you have another term for areas that are identical that unique groups of players can interact with and modify individual occurrences of.

    It's the exteriors that are ultimately the problem. Which are still instanced (each ward/sub-division is an instance), just more demanding.
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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    This really isn't true.

    Houses and apartments are already instanced on the inside. Unless you have another term for areas that are identical that unique groups of players can interact with and modify individual occurrences of.

    It's the exteriors that are ultimately the problem. Which are still instanced (each ward/sub-division is an instance), just more demanding.
    No they're not instances. A instance is a technical term for a uniquely loaded temporary 'instance', which is hosted on the 'instance' servers. Instances are technically infinite, due to their temporary nature, when one endsn it's gone and another can be loaded.

    Housing interiors may be different zones that all share the same layout, but they are not temporary instances. They are permanently accessible as part of the 'world', you can walk into them through their front door and different players can come in and out and occupy the same space at the same time. They are hosted on the 'world' servers along with every other zone that doesn't require a duty queue. They are finite, because they are permanent fixtures that are always accessible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    They are hosted on the 'world' servers along with every other zone that doesn't require a duty queue.
    Doesn't really hold true, the recent "unable to enter your home" error seemingly proves that it's a unique system. If they were hosted with other zones, then trying to teleport into any zone would get it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Doesn't really hold true, the recent "unable to enter your home" error seemingly proves that it's a unique system. If they were hosted with other zones, then trying to teleport into any zone would get it too.
    Which just proves they are finite zones that share a space, not individual instances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Which just proves they are finite zones that share a space, not individual instances.
    It's no different to when you can't load into a world zone because there are too many people in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Which just proves they are finite zones that share a space, not individual instances.
    Yes, they don't share the world servers. They are instance servers that load the interior from disk and launch it.
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    Oishi Tamanegi
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    Someone mentioned that it's possible the development team will see the amount of people applying for housing lottery (even tho the massive amount of social media insanity wasn't enough), will cause the team realize what a huge issue the housing market is for people and allocate resources as needed. Over the years I've played, I've seen everything from bald faced lies, dodging, and complete dis-interest from the development team, and when I heard they were going to implement lottery and island sanctuaries (with the hope it's a form of personal customizable space) I came back after a long hiatus.

    I'm holding out hope for island sanctuaries. Nothing done around housing that I have seen has done anything but cause every level of grief, drama, people hating each other, bots and dumpster fires.. you name it. I kind of torqued they just leaving it 30 houses with a tiny portion of them being mediums and larges. Allowing players to expand apartments, and adding sharing like houses do would go a REAL long way to address the situation. And for goodness' sake, fix the decorating system. I am so sick of floating crap.
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