Healers please

[ElciaDeiLinus]

It's pretty clear the 'healers are actually dps!' thing that content creators and this forum push has been very effective. It's become very noticeable since EW launch that healers think they're DPS, and having groups for all sorts of content where they're attacking the boss with two people dead and the rest of the party at quarter health is becoming the norm.

So I guess good job content creators- at least each wipe gives them more time to parse.

[OranKells]

look I'll put down asluym and maybe medica 2 before I start holy spamming. i'll weave in assize and tetra as needed. If you died its because you stood in the bad. A quarter health is fine. the regens will handle it.

[Saraide]

It's pretty clear the 'healers are actually dps!' thing that content creators and this forum push has been very effective. It's become very noticeable since EW launch that healers think they're DPS, and having groups for all sorts of content where they're attacking the boss with two people dead and the rest of the party at quarter health is becoming the norm.

So I guess good job content creators- at least each wipe gives them more time to parse.

Having to rely on gcd healing is usually the sign of a healer not using their resources correctly or just straight up not understanding them at all.

[BaconBits]

It's pretty clear the 'healers are actually dps!' thing that content creators and this forum push has been very effective. It's become very noticeable since EW launch that healers think they're DPS, and having groups for all sorts of content where they're attacking the boss with two people dead and the rest of the party at quarter health is becoming the norm.

So I guess good job content creators- at least each wipe gives them more time to parse.

You're less likely to die from a lack of healing than you are from eating 1 or 2 vuln snacks to be honest. Blaming your failures on healers for, Gods above, using their 2-3 dps spells instead of spamming their cure 1s and medica 2s like good little healbots isn't a good look.

[Silver-Strider]

You're less likely to die from a lack of healing than you are from eating 1 or 2 vuln snacks to be honest. Blaming your failures on healers for, Gods above, using their 2-3 dps spells instead of spamming their cure 1s and medica 2s like good little healbots isn't a good look.

Tbf, both situations can happen. I've died on my PLD quite a few times in synched content, coming out of Hallowed Ground because the healer wouldn't heal me at all.

[BaconBits]

Tbf, both situations can happen. I've died on my PLD quite a few times in synched content, coming out of Hallowed Ground because the healer wouldn't heal me at all.

Not saying it can't happen, just saying that you're more likely to get healers that'll cure bomb you the instant you drop below 100% than the opposite. Those kind of healers are also usually the type to panic in actual "ah crap" situations, the ones who'll blow through all of their cooldowns in record time only to realize they no longer have any abilities to deal with it. On the other end of the curebot spectrum, you have the kind that would rather run dry on mp from spamming aoe heals than even glance at their offglobal abilities.

Personally, I'd rather deal with a dps happy healer that doesn't quite know their limits than a healer that doesn't even attempt to go out of their comfort zone and opts to spam the very first heal they've learned because "it worked before" and saves all their off globals for "emergencies".

[ElciaDeiLinus]

You're less likely to die from a lack of healing than you are from eating 1 or 2 vuln snacks to be honest. Blaming your failures on healers for, Gods above, using their 2-3 dps spells instead of spamming their cure 1s and medica 2s like good little healbots isn't a good look.

Most fights have zone wide aoe damage nowadays- it's a far slower death yes than taking a double avoidable for twice your health... but I've had more than a few wipes recently where the raid's low health and one of those unavoidable is about to go out while the healer is spamming dps.

It's very noticeable when the team's within health range of dying to the next unavoidable, and the healer's at 80% mana, spamming dps, then half the team's dead.

Nobody's blaming healers for dpsing- but if they're dpsing while the team wipes, I think it's pretty fair. This is the only mmo community where healers will let people die so they can squeeze out damage and people think that's fine.

EW normal raid two for example- the boss does frequent zonewide damage that each do more than half your health damage even with no vuln stacks, and while that may be an extreme example, it's not uncommon for heavy hitting unavoidable damage to go out. I'd rather have encounters finish a bit slower with less healer dps rather than wipe over and over even while people are doing mechanics correctly.

... and frankly, even if people do mess up and take a vuln stack every once in a while, deciding not to heal those people to focus on spamming dps instead is a really bad habit that content creators have fostered in the ffxiv community.

[OranKells]

if you're dying to predictable telegraphed raidwides because of low hp that is the healers fault 100%. Healers should be dpsing but not at any cost.

if you're dying to raidwides at ~75% hp because you had 2 vuln stacks thats on you. It's not a bad habit, dps need to git gud too sometimes. pop that second wind folks.

it's team game everyone has a a part to play and don't expect your healers to overcompensate for other's inability to stand out of the bright orange circles.

[Saraide]

if you're dying to predictable telegraphed raidwides because of low hp that is the healers fault 100%. Healers should be dpsing but not at any cost.

if you're dying to raidwides at ~75% hp because you had 2 vuln stacks thats on you. It's not a bad habit, dps need to git gud too sometimes. pop that second wind folks.

it's team game everyone has a a part to play and don't expect your healers to overcompensate for other's inability to stand out of the bright orange circles.

Take hits responsibly but dont forget that predictable raidwides should also be mitigated and there are many tools for that between all 8 party members.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

if you're dying to predictable telegraphed raidwides because of low hp that is the healers fault 100%. Healers should be dpsing but not at any cost.

if you're dying to raidwides at ~75% hp because you had 2 vuln stacks thats on you. It's not a bad habit, dps need to git gud too sometimes. pop that second wind folks.

it's team game everyone has a a part to play and don't expect your healers to overcompensate for other's inability to stand out of the bright orange circles.

Letting the team wipe when you could prevent it by healing is... good team play?

This is what I'm talking about, people actually think this in this community.