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    When I’m healing extremes and raids honestly I don’t care what my co-healer does. I just always feel like I’m solo healing. Back in ARR, HW AND SB I actually trusted healers but every since SHB and now EW it’s like allot of healers are drunk or high. I don’t trust healers now. So many baddies. So as the old saying goes. If you want something done right just do it yourself.
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Huff, I see both sides are deadset that only one thing is true.
    Honestly, we have no clue what the real situation was. I see healers who overheal lots cause they're not confident/they don't know how to efficiently manage their heals/they panick, leaving you nothing to do, and I see healers who completely refuse to heal, leaving you to solo heal. As none of us but the OP was actually there to know what happens, both things can equally be true and both are equally likely.

    Tbh for serious content I tend to heal if I know the co-healer and can effectively coordinate, as both situations are very unpleasant to be in. For casual content it's whatever, if you overheal it's no biggie, if people die is also no biggie, but ex and above I'd rather not take bets.
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    To play a little devil's advocate here, were the instances you were casting cure 3 and medica 2 and such ones that required GCD healing like that? Generally you can cover healing requirements with just your off-GCD heals. For example, if there's a multi-hit stack, pop lilybell, problem solved. Maybe the other healer was expecting you to use those kinds of off-GCD heals rather then jump right to the GCD ones?

    Furthermore, do you know for sure that the other healer wasn't using their off-GCD Heals? It's possible it looked like they were just spamming glare, but were actually just being efficient and relying on their own + your off GCDs to keep the raid up. Which, especially in Extreme trials, definitely should be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    To play a little devil's advocate here.
    I just wanna point out that when complaints such as the OPs are being made, it's not commonly EX Trial or Savage that they're seeing this behaviour.
    The place I see bad healers most often is Normal Raids.

    Bad healer play is wildly variable based on who is observing the play in question.
    It can be as little as as using GCDs where an oGCD would have worked and as big as intentionally slacking on heals because "meh the other healer will fix it" mentality.

    I've been called a bad healer because I dont believe in leaving the team half dead after a mechanic.
    I'd rather just pop the team back to full ASAP and then go back to DPS focus.
    I do that because if I have to heal damage because a mechanic is coming in 10 seconds, why wait until the last moment to fix it?
    It saves the team deaths from accidental mistakes on mechanics

    In Savage/EX, you have time work out a plan with your co healer and team in general before starting.
    In Normal raids, you barely even get a hello before the tank is sprinting into the boss.

    Unfortunately, a LOT of healers will either do the bare minimum (refusing to do anything at all beyond an occasional oGCD) or ignore the co healer and overwrite everything they do, which ive experienced a lot already in Panda. Including a SCH recently who insisted on overwriting my E-Prog with Succor every time i cast it, not even as an accident as it was always several seconds after I applied it.

    These kinds of incidents are less common in EX and Savage because the offending player is just removed before they can cause party stress.
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    I'd just dial back on the heals a bit and see how your co-healer does. They may be getting a message that you have it since you're jumping on them. I know as a WHM, I rarely touch Cure III or Medica II anymore because we have very strong HoTs and effective instant heals. So dial it back, and if people start dying then the issue can be brought up about how to properly split responsibilities.
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