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    Johanna Yevon
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    ...this game is 8 Years Old. (I guess 11 if you count 1.0)
    I dont recall anywhere in those 8 years that any religion got angry or tried to cancel the game, or tried to force a change because they got offended by this "Dangerous Religious Ground" you claim the game is Treading on.
    When its been on it for over 2920 Days
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  2. #52
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    Jojo Bizzare
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    Ah i see its the OPs first experience with anything in the fantasy or fiction genre
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    Isn't that how religion works in real life anyway?
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    Merlin Waltz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuron View Post
    The main story of this game is threading on dangerous religious grounds mainly because of when a specific groups of people (beast tribes) summon their gods and we go there, kill their gods and put those people in their place after they get brainwashed (tempered) by their respective dieties. This kind of story is very dangerous in religious countries and square enix will get in legal trouble if they continue this type of storyline. This game has now gained a lot of attention and popularity. Its no longer hidden by WoW and the storyline will get a lot of attention now all over the world.

    Basically the story of FFXIV is saying that "Don't worship your gods or else we will kill your gods and then put you in your place. All the gods when summoned turns evil and brainwash (tempers) their people".

    I was also shocked to see that when a particularly important NPC told me all the 12 gods of the civilized races of Eorzea like Rhalgr, Halone, etc can be summoned if we lavish them with crystals and gorge them with ether. And when summoned the gods will turn evil (just like the beast tribe gods) and will fully brainwash (temper) all their worshippers. This type of storyline may have worked 15-20 years ago but nowadays in this new generation people will not tolerate it.

    I won't be surprise if the storyline gets censored in the coming days in majority of the countries.
    Every JRPG except Dragon Quest still ends with you killing god
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuron View Post
    I will explain this plainly so people can understand: Basically the storyline of FFXIV is saying 'don't be religious'.

    Which is excellent advice
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    There seems to be a great many strange threads started by characters with a join date of Dec 2021 of late.
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    I am still wondering what legal trouble this person talking about lol Since there is no legal grounds.
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  8. #58
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    The beast tribe summonings had many downsides to them...

    Namely that the way they're summoned urges their summoners to forcefully spread faith in them, by and large the primals demand complete obedience (again probably due to the rites used), and on top of that, they drain aether. They're not the same as the primals constructed through the creation magicks of the ancients. I don't think the point is that religion is bad, per se. Ability to use magic in the setting is indicated in the game's lore books to correlate with a penchant for faith (thus why Garleans are predisposed to atheism by and large), and by the end of 6.0, your character is receiving prayer to help them persevere.


    With that said, I also agree with Theodric; quite often formal religion is replaced by zealotry in ideologies that can be even worse.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  9. #59
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    Irzephaira Ryphaszela
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuron View Post
    The main story of this game is threading on dangerous religious grounds mainly because of when a specific groups of people (beast tribes) summon their gods and we go there, kill their gods and put those people in their place after they get brainwashed (tempered) by their respective dieties. This kind of story is very dangerous in religious countries and square enix will get in legal trouble if they continue this type of storyline. This game has now gained a lot of attention and popularity. Its no longer hidden by WoW and the storyline will get a lot of attention now all over the world.

    Basically the story of FFXIV is saying that "Don't worship your gods or else we will kill your gods and then put you in your place. All the gods when summoned turns evil and brainwash (tempers) their people".

    I was also shocked to see that when a particularly important NPC told me all the 12 gods of the civilized races of Eorzea like Rhalgr, Halone, etc can be summoned if we lavish them with crystals and gorge them with ether. And when summoned the gods will turn evil (just like the beast tribe gods) and will fully brainwash (temper) all their worshippers. This type of storyline may have worked 15-20 years ago but nowadays in this new generation people will not tolerate it.

    I won't be surprise if the storyline gets censored in the coming days in majority of the countries.
    I think you misunderstand the message of the game.

    You arent killing gods in a sense, you kill false hopes made flesh. They are idols that those people summon, so that they solve their problems, instead of solving them themselves.

    What the Warrior of Light does, is not killing their god, because they cant. What they kill is the urge to let deities work their lives out and reminding them, that their lifes are in THEIR hand and they should solve their problems by themselves.

    Its not about believing in gods, its about wanting the easy way out, on general.

    Endwalker deals with a different way of "easy way out",
    which is nihilism.


    Its not always the same.

    At least thats what I think
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    Last edited by Irzephyra; 12-29-2021 at 10:33 PM.

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    Oh pleeaseee
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    Enjoy Life you only get one.

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