Customizable gender identity? (for emotes)

[Shialan]

They are doing a different job. They still don't have to create around any kind of data limits and stuff.

[Zelarned]

We've dudes wearing maid outfits and skirts, I doubt it would be seen as a stretch for it to actually be a thing. Plus, the "my immersion" boat has sailed a long, long time ago. However, like everything, It's down to legacy code, resources and time. We can't really just force animations onto a different rig, unless we encounter something like to this.

[Batbrat]

What would really be great is if they just removed gendered emotes and had them all available to everyone as just variations, if that makes sense. So, for the cposes, just add them to the cpose rotation or had them be like 'cpose1' 'cpose 8' etc. Same with sitting and laying positions. and then with Emotes, have 'happy' 'happy2' or something along those lines.

I think..and I know a lot of people mean well. I know you mean well. But when people make a fuss about "gender expression", almost 10 times out of 10 it reeks of stereotypes/the unironic forcing of gender roles. People say that they hate gendered rules, but then turn around and enforce them by insinuating that in order for them to be the opposite gender, they need to look and act exactly like this and then the this is typically the exact caricature that causes so much stress and turmoil for that other gender to begin with. It's actually very foul to keep encountering so casually. So, making it.. "female pose" shouldnt really be a thing at all anyway, because ultimately gender shouldnt be at the forefront of clothing nor motions, since anyone can do or use them regardless of what they are. There are no written rules when it comes to gender, just rules people heard growing up and continued to apply to themselves. There are masculine women just as there are feminine men-you don't have to keep showing loyalty to these made up rules by only expressing yourself one way as a gender and then another way as a different gender.

What I'm trying to say is that it's a good idea, but that furthermore they should just go on ahead and remove the gendered motions thing altogether. Not because its inclusive, but because its common sense that there's no one specific way to be a man nor a woman.

[KizuyaKatogami]

animators are not 3D modelers

The teams all work on different things. For example the same team in charge of housing…..also designs Ultimates. Spending time on one thing takes away time from the other thing. That’s how it’s always worked. People are already getting their gender neutral glams. Was that not enough? Now people are asking for more and more.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

Depends on how complicated the ask would be. I'm aware of the M-people already accomplishing this somewhat, but I think we can all admit that doesn't compare to actual work done by the dev team, in most cases. There could be unseen bugs, clipping, mismatched movements, etc... Any number of issues that arise. I'm not well versed enough to know how easy of an ask this would be.

Giving more options is never a bad idea. Something I'm in favor of, but I will say it doesn't really have anything to do with inclusion. It seems kind of... confrontational? The way the topic is labeled made me think this was another bait troll thread, then reading it lead to a reasonable request.

TLDR: I'm all for it, because it's a quality of life improvement. As long as work on it doesn't make other aspects/content creation suffer, why not? Not sure what gender identity has to do with it at all, hence my confusion at the thread's title.

[Gameovers]

I've always found female viera kind of gross so that might be why I never confuse the two.

How are you a male viera and think the females look gross when the males looks just like the females?

[Ruru_Nayu]

Please keep gender politics out of this game, thanks!

[Lihtleita]

Please keep gender politics out of this game, thanks!

but ruru, the gender politics are coming from inside the game

[Ruru_Nayu]

but ruru, the gender politics are coming from inside the game

It's more the players than the game, personally i don't wanna have anything to do with it.

While having customizable emotes is fine in my book the rest is "Why?"

[Bright-Flower]

I'd be fully in support of something like this in a new game, built from the ground up with it in mind. However, going in and allowing custom pronouns for emotes, when all of that stuff is hard coded to your gender selection at character creation, may be more development work that is feasible, especially considering it'd only make sense to have this apply to how npcs address you in dialog as well.