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  1. #41
    Player
    Zomkei's Avatar
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    Decayed Corpse
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FrogDog View Post
    I've always found female viera kind of gross so that might be why I never confuse the two.
    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    I think majority of male Viera up close just look like handsome squidward but I digress. We’ll just agree to disagree.
    so this is why male and female can't live in the same tribe :^)
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  2. #42
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    ErryK's Avatar
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Ragnarok
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    If you just wanted pronouns in the chat bar that would be easy - but you're asking for animations. And that's a big ask requiring a LOT of developer time.
    m-worders have already managed to port animations from one race to another. this is not a big ask in the least.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  3. #43
    Player EaraGrace's Avatar
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    Eara Grace
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    Because I don’t understand peoples desire to make all races and gender the same in this game.

    If you want female cposes, play a female. If you want male cposes, play a male.

    The dev’s shouldn’t have to waste their time making this happen. There’s other things that could be changed that improves the quality of life of this game - it’s such a low priority of things that need to be done that it’s not even worth considering.
    What’s the issue with having more options? You can have your particular set of emotes and looks and others can differ
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  4. #44
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    xxmiamorecadenza's Avatar
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Golem
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    What’s the issue with having more options? You can have your particular set of emotes and looks and others can differ
    Because people will literally lose their minds if they see male characters use the female WHM idle pose.
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  5. #45
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    Dewslam's Avatar
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    Dewslam Beefgrab
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    tbh trying to couch this in the language of "doing it for inclusivity" is a bit weird. It seems like a good Quality of Life change everyone could benefit from; some race and gender animations are just cooler than others and I'd love to be able to customize which animations my character used to a more specific degree. But then again I'm all for them adding more animations and styles period.
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  6. #46
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Poses are tied to the rigging of each model, with the mail and female models obviously being different. To accommodate this request would require actual new animations for all those emotes. They are never going to put in that kind of effort for what is ultimately an extreme niche request.
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  7. #47
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    I always say this but people are struggling to tell the difference between male and female viera as it is. Why make them even more similar?
    This is the first time I ever heard of this and my fc has a lot of bunnies of both genders. One even went for a fem-boy look. I don't have a problem telling the men and women apart at all and I don't use poses to see which is which. The ears on their own are a dead giveaway never mind other bodily proportions and the faces.

    We can already cycle through cpose for non-weapon idle stances. The same could easily be applied to weapon stances. I would love to have the male pose as a bard.
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  8. #48
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    Dewslam's Avatar
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    Dewslam Beefgrab
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Poses are tied to the rigging of each model, with the mail and female models obviously being different. To accommodate this request would require actual new animations for all those emotes. They are never going to put in that kind of effort for what is ultimately an extreme niche request.
    I can't speak for how XIV works, but it absolutely does not require new animations. In most programs it's incredibly easy to simply transfer skeletons from model to model even if the models don't match in the least leading to hilarious incidents like the classic "Pikaman" meme. Without human care and precision it won't always look good, but frankly I'd rather be able to swap between animations and decide what looks good to me than not at all.
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  9. #49
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dewslam View Post
    I can't speak for how XIV works, but it absolutely does not require new animations. In most programs it's incredibly easy to simply transfer skeletons from model to model even if the models don't match in the least leading to hilarious incidents like the classic "Pikaman" meme. Without human care and precision it won't always look good, but frankly I'd rather be able to swap between animations and decide what looks good to me than not at all.
    You've obviously never worked in animation a day in your life.
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  10. #50
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    We won't be getting any more playable races, so the people on the character team can move on from making new stuff to updating old stuff. I don't see why this can't be rolled into any character creation updates in the future. I like the female MNK pose more than the male one.

    Also - if people couldn't tell a male apart from a female because of a idle-stance they might want to get checked for oncoming blindness.
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