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    LeonKeyh's Avatar
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    Leon Keyh
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    EW Role Quests - Missed Opportunity? -Spoilers for Role Quests-

    Whenever I found out that Shadowbringers didn't have job quests and instead had role quests, I was really disappointed, but after playing them I actually enjoyed them well enough.

    Whenever they spoke about EW's role quests, I defended the idea because quite a few of the Job questlines were.... "weak" (-cough-PLD-cough-) and decreasing the number of questlines to 5 would surely allow them to focus on creating good stories.

    I've finished the Melee DPS role quest and it went from really boring to "ok" once they introduced the Company of Heroes. It was definitely a cool idea to bring them back.

    I'm working right now on leveling 1 of each role to check out the other role quests but I feel like this was the perfect opportunity to bring back characters from the job quests that make up the role.

    I would have loved to see Alberic (LNC/DRG), Jacke and Oboro (ROG/NIN), Wildargelt (MNK), and Makoto (SAM) coming together to help you defeat the blasphemy. It'd be a great way of bringing those characters back into the game.

    It was also a little strange, narratively, that the reason why the quest lines were separated was because the Blasphemy "required a certain type of warrior to defeat", but then most of your team is not that type and with melee DPS in particular, you needed to find a ranged physical person to be able to defeat it.
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    Yuella Davilles
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    The Role Quests are very very good. I still need to finish the ranged one but the 4 i've finished are excellent
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    Cassandria Everfree
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    I found the caster one to be particularly boring. If you have a love boner for Aymeric it may be good, but otherwise it just raised a few more questions and had nothing to do with casters at all.
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    Jenna Starsong
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    I've also been disappointed by the role quests so far (haven't done physical ranged yet.) Healer at least gave us some interesting insight into Fordola but the the melee and caster ones were boring and forgettable and the tank one was actively bad.
    The elementals completely destroyed the life of a naive kid who made a single mistake where no harm was done and it wasn't really his fault anyway. Big shocker he later came to resent them. Watching the story play out as if the elementals were the victims and some sort of benevolent saviors when really they caused the problem in the first place left a really bad taste in my mouth.


    On the other hand though, the studium quests have been fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    I've also been disappointed by the role quests so far (haven't done physical ranged yet.) Healer at least gave us some interesting insight into Fordola but the the melee and caster ones were boring and forgettable and the tank one was actively bad.
    The elementals completely destroyed the life of a naive kid who made a single mistake where no harm was done and it wasn't really his fault anyway. Big shocker he later came to resent them. Watching the story play out as if the elementals were the victims and some sort of benevolent saviors when really they caused the problem in the first place left a really bad taste in my mouth.


    On the other hand though, the studium quests have been fantastic.
    Wait...you're on endwalker and haven't yet figured out the Black Shroud is absoutly horrable and heartless? The elementals are kinda assholes.
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    Well sure, but they're not usually THAT blatant about it (aside from the SB WHM quests which I disliked for similar reasons.)
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    Aiolos Severwind
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    In 1.0 I believe they even caused people to get sick that they didn't want in the woods. The elementals are very very much creatures of whim. I wonder if the 12 storyline coming up will go into that at all.
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    I think the role quests weren't as strong as ShB's quests, but overall I thought they were mostly fine. I actually liked the ranged one a lot, I enjoyed the melee and tank ones (which surprised me since I think Kann-e Senna is the most boring faction leader) and I'm always up for more Fordola, as controversial a statement as that may be. I did feel the caster questline was kinda dry though. I liked it in theory, but in practice it was missing a certain I don't know what.

    But yeah overall, I think they weren't quite as solid as the ShB ones, but they were good enough. And honestly they are probably here to stay, I know people prefer job quests, but they would require a ton writing for every job to get one, especially factoring in crafters and gatherers. Besides the job quests were pretty hit or miss anyway.
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    Brynhildr
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    I found the Endwalker rolequests to be "meh". Except the melee DPS one in Limsa. That was fun!

    I also liked the final duties of the melee DPS and tank rolequests. They felt at least somewhat challenging. They were also good narrative moments, with


    that exhilarating rush in the melee quest to DPS down the adds in time, and that relief when the rest of the team hops in to rescue you. In the tank rolequest, the health of you and your comrades slowly whittling down felt tense, and then when that lancer guy at 5% HP left taunted the boss away as Kan-E-Senna was about to cast the spell, I thought he was going to sacrifice himself.


    Sadly the other final duties of the other rolequstlines were a snooze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    I found the Endwalker rolequests to be "meh". Except the melee DPS one in Limsa. That was fun!
    Those dialog options in the final scene (especially Brayflox's) were the high point of the entire quest series.
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