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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Well at least it'll show a wide and visible discontent.
    If they want to read a centralized thread, it is possible to sort by the highest number of posts. It is not difficult.
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    VeolE's Avatar
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    Len Mei
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    So let's make thousands of threads with no context or connectivity, that surely will make them read our complaints. It's not like people tried that for years.
    Even so, that's not going to stop people on making more threads as it is for their current dissatisfaction about the class. It's better to voice your opinion or to not voice them at all.
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeolE View Post
    Even so, that's not going to stop people on making more threads as it is for their current dissatisfaction about the class. It's better to voice your opinion or to not voice them at all.
    Good luck then. Wouldn't be surprised if nothing ends up happening either way, knowing how they ignore even the most obvious flaw.. Living Dead was it? Bloodweapon? Never heard of that.
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Marauder Lv 100
    If it helps, JP forums are also up in arms with the current version of DRK.
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    Brianna Islen
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    If it helps, JP forums are also up in arms with the current version of DRK.
    I keep hearing this, but no one ever gives a synopsis or even a summary of what JP players are saying about Dark Knight, and it’s frustrating because I genuinely want to know what is being said.

    Can you provide a rundown of what they are saying and how many threads/responses there are? As someone who Loves Dark Knight and wants to see the Job fixed, I’d really love to know what they are saying in the hopes that maybe, as a collective, we’ll be heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    I keep hearing this, but no one ever gives a synopsis or even a summary of what JP players are saying about Dark Knight, and it’s frustrating because I genuinely want to know what is being said.

    Can you provide a rundown of what they are saying and how many threads/responses there are? As someone who Loves Dark Knight and wants to see the Job fixed, I’d really love to know what they are saying in the hopes that maybe, as a collective, we’ll be heard.
    It's mostly centred in one thread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...%83%AC/page213
    I personaly use google translate to check the forums out, it's not perfect but works.
    You'll see they are mostly in favor of DRK changes too especially with their sustain compared to the other tanks.

    That being said, they are way more civilized with their discussion you see less rage and screams for nerfs because JP is usually not in favor of weakening/nerfing others because that does not fix the root of the issue.
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    Brianna Islen
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    It's mostly centred in one thread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...%83%AC/page213
    I personaly use google translate to check the forums out, it's not perfect but works.
    You'll see they are mostly in favor of DRK changes too especially with their sustain compared to the other tanks.

    That being said, they are way more civilized with their discussion you see less rage and screams for nerfs because JP is usually not in favor of weakening/nerfing others because that does not fix the root of the issue.

    Thank you for that, I appreciate having something to go through and read.

    I too, am of the mindset that the other tanks shouldn’t be nerfed. Rather, I want to see Dark Knight brought into Parity alongside them, and to have it’s identity firmly established and be distinctly separate from the other Tanks, and have a unique identity all it’s own like back in Heavensward.
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    Vann Wood
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Endolas View Post
    First of all, yes I know it's another dark knight thread but hear me out.

    We all know now that we DRK have the most problems in dungeons, i even saw multiple healers saying "oh thank god its not a dark knight" at the beginning of a dungeon when they got a different tank.

    I have multiple big issues with the job but thats for another thread.

    Listen to this:

    We are playing a game, where the DEV's decided to get rid off Dark Knight's Self-Heal with the patch from Heavensward to Stormblood with the reason "It is too strong"
    But IN THE SAME GAME they give the Warrior a Self-Heal that is STRONGER than what we had with DRK at the end of Heavensward AND it is easier to perform because you only have to hit 1 button AND you can do that every 25 seconds!

    We had to Stack multiple cooldowns, use Blood Price, pray that noone stuns the mobs and spam the hell out of Dark Arts and Abyssal Drain! Also the Cooldown for that was at least 60 seconds because you had to stack multiple cooldowns for it.

    Even if they nerf WAR's Self-Heal he still will have it and it will still be super strong.
    Just give us Abyssal Drain as an GCD back and make it cost 50 Bloog Gauge.

    How can SE do this to us?

    I believe that this was straight up 100% not tested at all.

    So, thoughts?
    By all means, post a threads. Ut copy and past the opener into the DRK mega thread so SQEX can’t get away with saying: we only look at the larger threads and it wasn’t there...
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    Endolas Guillotine
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    Zodiark
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Danelo View Post
    By all means, post a threads. Ut copy and past the opener into the DRK mega thread so SQEX can’t get away with saying: we only look at the larger threads and it wasn’t there...
    i posted it into the Mega Thread in hope that SE see's it if they only look into the larger oney.
    Thanks for the Recommendation!
    Keep it coming guys ! the Truth must be said!
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    Len Mei
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    Good luck then. Wouldn't be surprised if nothing ends up happening either way, knowing how they ignore even the most obvious flaw.. Living Dead was it? Bloodweapon? Never heard of that.
    I won't cap though sin, ever since you made the dark knight mega thread, you basically gave out a lot of hope to a lot of DRK mains, and making their opinions and expression towards the class to be heard in one thread, but these responses you're giving me sounding like you're giving up for real.

    To me, you feel like the lvl 70 quest for DRK rn. A soul crystal that snap into two pieces.
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