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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    1. The big question, so what happens to all of the souls that Meteion took and stored in her egg? I thought it was pretty obvious when the shimmering goop coalesced and spilled out. They're going to dissipate back to the lifestream and be reborn. Her egg was to prevent rebirth, it's broken, so they're going to be reborn. Much to my surprise when I teleported back to the zone after the story ended... the goop is still there. Albeit, there are streams coming forth, the soul-jello is still intact. So... what happens to those souls?

    -My assumption / answer: The soul egg was so dense with such a massive amount of collected souls, it'll probably take a very long time for it to completely dissipate, which speaks volumes to the sheer amount of souls she took. Otherwise, I have no idea why it's still there?
    What you're calling an egg is consistently referred to as the "dead sun" within the game so I took the blue stuff to be star-gas, except behaving like a liquid because... reasons. Gravity is weird in that place.


    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    I was positive at the end of the game we would go to the Terminus, and we didn't.
    Given that "the Terminus" simply means "the end", I feel like it was a missed opportunity that they didn't call the final zone by that name. It would have set the mood so much better.

    (And given their love of referencing past FF games, it would be a nod to Kingdom Hearts' "End of the World" final zone besides.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    What you're calling an egg is consistently referred to as the "dead sun" within the game so I took the blue stuff to be star-gas, except behaving like a liquid because... reasons. Gravity is weird in that place.




    Given that "the Terminus" simply means "the end", I feel like it was a missed opportunity that they didn't call the final zone by that name. It would have set the mood so much better.

    (And given their love of referencing past FF games, it would be a nod to Kingdom Hearts' "End of the World" final zone besides.)
    While I don't think it was the main reason, I am inclined to believe the naming was to be more evocative of where it is, and because there's more meme potential.

    (Spoiler about final zone)

    As the zone is trying to be essentially "The end of the universe", and there is a literal Douglas Adams' Restaurant at the End of the Universe, amongst other things. Ultima Thule really just meaning "the extreme limit of travel and discovery."


    That said, there really was no reason it couldn't just be named "Terminus", since that has lots of potential with memes etc as well via Dr. Who. Both are equally Latin and similar in meaning. Lost opportunity I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    While I don't think it was the main reason, I am inclined to believe the naming was to be more evocative of where it is, and because there's more meme potential.

    (Spoiler about final zone)

    As the zone is trying to be essentially "The end of the universe", and there is a literal Douglas Adams' Restaurant at the End of the Universe, amongst other things. Ultima Thule really just meaning "the extreme limit of travel and discovery."


    That said, there really was no reason it couldn't just be named "Terminus", since that has lots of potential with memes etc as well via Dr. Who. Both are equally Latin and similar in meaning. Lost opportunity I guess?

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    name the final zone “Terminus”, “Ultima Thule” itself means a place “beyond the borders of the known world”; so, in a way, it’s fitting without constantly reusing the same word. Since “terminus” has been in use since the Amarout dungeon in ShB, I’m kind of glad they didn’t just reuse it here, and opted for a name of similar meaning.
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    No need for spoiler tags when the thread title is clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    As the zone is trying to be essentially "The end of the universe", and there is a literal Douglas Adams' Restaurant at the End of the Universe, amongst other things. Ultima Thule really just meaning "the extreme limit of travel and discovery."
    I don't see how Ultima Thule makes for a better pun than Terminus. Both are "the end" but Terminus seems more instantly evocative and can mean both "farthest" and "final" (and was already used in that sense for the terminus beasts) while Ultima is only "farthest" and a stranger phrase if you haven't come across it before.

    It's the furthest place in the universe but also the ending point of worlds, and those endings are the conspicuous thing once you're there.

    And if I remember correctly, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe was of the final apocalyptic variety, making Terminus the better reference on that front too.


    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Since “terminus” has been in use since the Amarout dungeon in ShB, I’m kind of glad they didn’t just reuse it here, and opted for a name of similar meaning.
    That's exactly why I think they should have used it for a thread of consistency. They didn't actually use it as a location name there, so bringing it up now at the end of everything seems to make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Given that "the Terminus" simply means "the end", I feel like it was a missed opportunity that they didn't call the final zone by that name. It would have set the mood so much better.
    SE has to be careful with the names chosen for the final zones since those will get shared long before most players make it through the MSQ.

    Terminus would have been an obvious story spoiler since we already had a connection between Terminus and the ancient Final Days in Shadowbringers.

    Ultima Thule doesn't really tell us much other than it's a place very far away. Easy enough for players who see it while still working on MSQ to assume it's the second zone o on the moon that so many thought we were getting.
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