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Thread: DRK feels weak

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    That would just make DRK even more like Warrior though.
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    I’ve been mostly healing this expansion and I feel like I have to babysit Drks. In dungeons, I have to layer my spells or they’ll just drop. In trials/raids, I really have to keep my eye on them. For the other tanks, my aoe healing during raidwides is basically enough to keep them afloat most of the time.

    I’m happy that I have more reasons to use my healing spells and actually heal during downtime, but from a tank comparison viewpoint the Drk feels really bad. My friends have been saying the same after I talked to them so….
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmpyreanHelios View Post
    I’ve been mostly healing this expansion and I feel like I have to babysit Drks. In dungeons, I have to layer my spells or they’ll just drop. In trials/raids, I really have to keep my eye on them. For the other tanks, my aoe healing during raidwides is basically enough to keep them afloat most of the time.

    I’m happy that I have more reasons to use my healing spells and actually heal during downtime, but from a tank comparison viewpoint the Drk feels really bad. My friends have been saying the same after I talked to them so….
    I like to heal to change things up and I had a DRK in Zodiark as a sage where things were going kinda south, OT was dead and couldn't swap, so DRK used LD and I literally used everything. Was discord streaming to my friends, one of which is a healer main, who was just laughing at how I used [i]literally everything[i] and the DRK still just died, it was horrible but also kinda hilarious. I think a few abilities were on cooldown, like Zoe and Nuema, but I used everything I had left at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    Nah,brah we can say what we want. Just like people can retort "you don't pay my sub" when you give them friendly advice. If my opinion makes you think I'm trolling then maybe you need to take a step away from the topic being discussed. Especially when you got low ass tier threads like this clogging up the boards when there's already a handful of active threads of similar nature on the board.
    What opinion in this thread did YOU give? Did I miss it? You said something to the effect of “this guy gets it” to another who said “they are strong”. I only think you or others are a troll when you make or endorse unsupported or poorly supported statements which add nothing to the “low ass tier threads” otherwise known as polite discourse. As far as the thread clogging up the boards... what do you think the forums are for? They are for players to, usually, express displeasure. Lastly, I could say something cliche like: Don’t “brah” me ‘cause you don’t knah me... but seriously, don’t degrade your viewpoint by cursing or using slang to address someone you are writing in opposition to.
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    DRK feels like its stuck in Shadowbringers, no real improvements. blood weapon on timer not charges, Living Dead still the same (like if it didnt just suck compared to the rest). i seriously wonder if the devs even play DRK to see how its soul is being chipped away at every expansion. plus in HW, drks animations were super sick to see. now its just bland animations and a gimmick shadow (buffed to 300 potency now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danelo View Post
    What opinion in this thread did YOU give? Did I miss it? You said something to the effect of “this guy gets it” to another who said “they are strong”. I only think you or others are a troll when you make or endorse unsupported or poorly supported statements which add nothing to the “low ass tier threads” otherwise known as polite discourse. As far as the thread clogging up the boards... what do you think the forums are for? They are for players to, usually, express displeasure. Lastly, I could say something cliche like: Don’t “brah” me ‘cause you don’t knah me... but seriously, don’t degrade your viewpoint by cursing or using slang to address someone you are writing in opposition to.
    lol, chill brah. Your response is only supporting my bias that you're too rigid a person to spend effort on, typing out opinions that are longer then a paragraph. I'm not writing in opposition to anyone. I'm just sayin' what's on my mind and your jimmies are getting rustled.
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    Guys don't feed an obvious troll, come on you're smarter than this.
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    The main issue is dungeons/casual content for DRK
    ALL tanks (not just WAR ALL TANKS) got some really nice self-sustainability tools that makes them feel strong and satisfying in Dungeons without making them feel broken in Savage. DRK still feels perfectly fine and strong in EX and Savage content, which is nice and all, but for those people who only play casually/only do Dungeon content DRK was left in the dust. A GNB, PLD, or WAR can easily survive without their healer in a huge mob pull, healer is bad, is afk, couldn't keep up, whatever, those 3 tanks can deal with it without a problem, while DRK will actually notice that their healer is missing or is simply choosing to not heal them. This doesn't make too much of a difference in Savage, forced tank swaps and the sheer amount of damage prevent the new healing tools for every other tanks from making them feel broken. But ONCE AGAIN I'm referring to how DRK feels in Dungeon content specifically. Just because some of us, myself included, do Savage doesn't mean we should ignore issues in the Normal content and hand wave them off simply because the class is still desirable in Savage/do guud damage.
    Also, Shadowbringer.
    Dear god Shadowbringer.
    DRK feeling poor compared to the other tanks in Dungeons aside, every tank got new offensive skills that are visually satisfying and FEEL GOOD to press. DRK got "It's Just Flood of Shadow 6.0 Edition". Their other problems aside I think the fact that Shadowbringer is such a lame attack visually and in feeling is a signifier of a problem on dev's part that maybe none of their team actually play the class
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    Yeah all it takes is one dungeon with a healer that doesn't know how to heal or keeps lagging out or DPS that doesn't know how to DPS in large trash pulls. You'll run out of every possible mitigation rather quickly.

    I mentioned this before but if the developers would play with DRK for 10 hours a day on a mentor or leveling roulette for around a week, we'd not be in this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mukakruda View Post
    DRK feeling poor compared to the other tanks in Dungeons aside, every tank got new offensive skills that are visually satisfying and FEEL GOOD to press. DRK got "It's Just Flood of Shadow 6.0 Edition". Their other problems aside I think the fact that Shadowbringer is such a lame attack visually and in feeling is a signifier of a problem on dev's part that maybe none of their team actually play the class
    What is this skill you're talking about... Shadowbringer...? You mean Dark Passenger II?
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