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    Doing DPS to the mobs is mitigating future damage. This is true in all content.

    Serious 8 man content where the healers do not DPS is failed content, because you will not beat the enrage timer otherwise until you've built up strong enough gear to outmuscle it. No heal spell is strong enough to recover from EX, Savage, or Ultimate enrage.

    Everyone's job includes hurting the enemies, and the healers have excellent tools for this.
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    Ok so...what's the point of this thread then? Awareness? Everybody already knows it's a player problem. Everybody who's played heals knows that you're not doing dps because you're expected to do it, you're doing dps because you've made the (assumed) correct decision at the current point in time and place to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    I do damage as a healer in a group when its possible for me. Mostly of the roulette runs, as well the 8 player quest runs, i focus on heal and barley do damage. It might take a bit longer but a wipe takes more time.

    In raids it might be different, but i am not into this, roulette is good enough for me, so no need to do a lot of damage.
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    Killing is the strongest form of healing.
    If it's dead, it won't do damages.

    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    I want to refuse my role as a dps and want party heals and self heals to make up for healer dps.
    your parses mean nothing when the group is dead.

    Stops wasting everyone's time and do your job or quit the role please. And when you rez, heal the person.
    Your dedication to filling HP bar means nothing if your group wipes because of DPS check.
    Your stuborness to not DPS will work against you during dungeon pack if you run out of resources and can't keep the tank up. The faster the pack dies, the easier it is to heal.

    This is a "git gud" situation, especially in the current state of expansion where you can solo heal everything.
    Your logic would also mean that other party member have no responsibilities to assist you with healing, DPS wouldn't have to use their mitigation or second wind.
    PLD wouldn't have to Clemency, WAR could remove its self healing abilities because his role is to tank.

    You don't want that. It's a team game, play with the game not with your opinion.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 12-27-2021 at 05:37 PM.

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    This is simple. I'll do more dps when people take less unnecessary damage.

    I wish there are more fights with heavy healing.
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    Is this another troll post? Hard to tell with so many on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    Theres an accepted ideology in this game of "healers need to dps"
    No, I'd say it's more like : Healers need to heal, but when that would be overhealing - dps instead.

    A good healer will know when to do either task.
    A bad healer will just stand there topping their party to 100% and nothing else.

    As for the top up after rez... If you are over 20% you will likely be fine as long as you don't step in anything, otherwise it's on my triage list and I will get to it soon. Please look forward to it.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 12-27-2021 at 05:57 PM.
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    The first technique in every healer's list is an offensive spell. The objective of combat is to eliminate the enemy. Healing is secondary because damage is designed with that aspect in mind, and so it always comes out balanced around healer's power.

    You do both in this game because it is designed for you to be able to do both. In solo play you must do both. Do both.
    True though as a healer I'd prioritize keeping others alive over dpsing as actual dps will contribute more damage.

    When I first started healing in mmos I hated dpsing, it was awkward switching between allies and enemies and it simply wasn't fun. Then I got better at healing and started to get bored, now I dps as a healer to try and alleviate some of that boredom when there's nothing better to do.

    I imagine many players new to healing would be in the same boat. After all there's a plethora of dps jobs to play, each more fun and interesting than dpsing on any healer. Why someone would want to only dps as a healer though I have no idea, that's just weird.
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    Void Mage Job Concept: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/469993-New-Job-Idea-Void-Mage-v.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Is this another troll post? Hard to tell with so many on these forums.
    No im genuinely concerned about the healing community and game where a crucial role is completely ignored and everyone seems ok with it at their own expense. Like I said, don't wanna heal? Then delete the role and give dps and tanks their spells.
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