Healers

[Vyrerus]

Theres an accepted ideology in this game of "healers need to dps" and its causing and has caused a lot of problems. 1 in any 8 player group you also have one healer and one dps spammer. This demoralizes said healer and they quit the role.
2 even the notion of healers doing their job will get you reported or banned from the forums. Def 2021.
3 I want to refuse my role as a dps and want party heals and self heals to make up for healer dps.
4 your parses mean nothing when the group is dead.
5 why even bother when 90% of you would be more useful as red Mage?
Stops wasting everyone's time and do your job or quit the role please. And when you rez, heal the person.

You're playing the wrong game. The first technique in every healer's list is an offensive spell. The objective of combat is to eliminate the enemy. Healing is secondary because damage is designed with that aspect in mind, and so it always comes out balanced around healer's power.

Healer's Job in FFXIV:

1) Assist in Eliminating the enemy.
2) Keep people alive by whatever means you have, so that they can eliminate the enemy.

To just heal is to ignore one half of your job, and it prolongs elimination of the enemy, requiring more healing to happen and also causing the group to come closer to defeat by the enemy.

You do both in this game because it is designed for you to be able to do both. In solo play you must do both. Do both.

[Kes13a]

You're playing the wrong game. The first technique in every healer's list is an offensive spell. The objective of combat is to eliminate the enemy. Healing is secondary because damage is designed with that aspect in mind, and so it always comes out balanced around healer's power.

Healer's Job in FFXIV:

1) Assist in Eliminating the enemy.
2) Keep people alive by whatever means you have, so that they can eliminate the enemy.

To just heal is to ignore one half of your job, and it prolongs elimination of the enemy, requiring more healing to happen and also causing the group to come closer to defeat by the enemy.

You do both in this game because it is designed for you to be able to do both. In solo play you must do both. Do both.

not to put too fine a point on it, you are a bit of a dull knife.

OF COURSE a healers first spell is offensive. its an mmo, are healers expected to heal mobs to death? no, the expectation is leveling. so naturally, the very first thing you learn is that. the only way anything else would be feasible is to have groups starting at level 1.

as for half my job doing whatever I can to keep people off the floor and eliminating the enemy. well, since combat healers, meaning those that dps over any kind of healing, often let people lay on the floor while they get their deeps in, wouldnt you have to say THEY arent doing half their job? or in your opinion, they are fine because they are "eliminating the enemy"? if you healer is too busy dpsing to toss you a rez, is that okay because unlike you they are dpsing and not laying around collecting floor dust?

its a balance, not one or the other. dps when you can, heal the rest. dps only crowd is promoting an agenda where poor healers kill groups

[HyoMinPark]

its a balance, not one or the other. dps when you can, heal the rest. dps only crowd is promoting an agenda where poor healers kill groups

In all the healer discussions I’ve been a part of on these forums, I can say I have never seen anyone advocate for “DPS only and ignore the party” when it comes to being a healer and dealing damage. The bolded part is an irrelevant argument because it isn’t even one made here. It’s condemned even by those advocating for healers to deal damage.