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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    This.

    Joking aside - and forgetting the basic troll post - when will we be taken seriously?

    I'm bored. I love the healer principle in FFXIV. The mapping, the "you have to plan ahead and know the strategy" part.
    But overall, and despite my little experience on this game (came when Shb was out), 60% of the time I spam a key. Two when I have to refresh my dot. Even sage, which is a dps based job according to the description given, has only one main button for dps.

    Give us more mechanics to deal with. Please. Most people will always choose dps anyway.
    Sages Job description is nothing more than Quality Bait at its finest. It is still the same generic Healer as the rest are, with the exception of having 1 (!!!) more Dps Button than the other Healers.

    Healers are faulty by design and dont fit into their Game enviroment, theyre bloated with a silly amount of raw healing and dps abilities and even if you cut away half the number of the former, all it would take is some small potency adjustments and noone would notice anything amiss.

    I for my part, gave up on Healing entirely, once i have them all on lv90, i wont bother using them ever again until they get a full scale rework. And THAT, providing we keep Squeenix typical schedule in mind, will ONLY be possible on a future expansion release that will NOT feature both a new race, as well as a new Job, provided they even care and want to.
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    If I can't do some damage as a healer, then the rest of the group is doing things wrong.

    It's rare for me to enter healer-panic mode, but oh boy is it deathly easy for me to not-so-quietly rage to myself in various obscenities about the underperformance of the rest of the party.

    Nothing will ever solidify my borderline nihilistic rage as a healer more than having a co-healer scream at me for not casting esuna on them to cure their doom status. Yes, this actually happened in Dun Scaith. Said co-healer also tried to tell me I didn't know to play healers afterwards.
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    9 Pages? Come on people they weren't even trying.

    I bet I can post a thread titled: 'DPS are forcing Tanks to big pull and it's toxic' and give a fake terrible argument and it would be 10 pages long of nonsense.
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    It took me a sec to figure out why there were so many smilies in the original post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    9 Pages? Come on people they weren't even trying.

    I bet I can post a thread titled: 'DPS are forcing Tanks to big pull and it's toxic' and give a fake terrible argument and it would be 10 pages long of nonsense.
    I am pretty sure I have seen more than one thread exactly like that. Posted in them even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
    So found this in another thread, I tend to do dps just because I hate have nothing to do but healing is my job not dps.


    Today, Mr. Happy posted a video in which he describes a interview he did with Yoshi P during the reveal that occurred last month.

    At the beginning of the video about the question in reference to his first question about his received answers, he stated that these answers were paraphrased and to not quote them but during 4:42 of the video seen here: https://youtu.be/5la_nyC5BO0?t=282
    Mr. Happy states what Yoshi P wanted to make a clear point "I really want you to emphasize this to your viewers" then Yoshi P goes on to say "I firmly believe that it should not be mandatory(Healers DPSing) and we do not have the expectation for them to dps!"

    Now, even if that was a paraphrase(which to anyone who views the video that it isn't) Yoshi P made it clear that if a person plays a healer....the game has been designed it for Healer DPS to be a OPTIONAL CHOICE! Not a required one.

    Now we all know that you may vote kick players from content they qued for based on your view of "different playstyles" But let this be clear.....you are kicking these players not because of them not performing their roles correctly by not DPSing....but because you decided to dictate how you feel others should play!
    Yoshida has walked this statement back several times because there have since been Savage fight statistically impossible to clear without healer DPS. E8S healer DPS wasn't optional for several weeks. Even with the literal best DPS and Tank players, if neither healer contributed any DPS, you straight up would die to enrage. Her check simply was too high.

    Regardless of Yoshida's opinion on DPS, players will adapt based on the tools provided to them. This is true of any game. Said players typically don't enjoy feeling like they're putting in more effort than others. A healer refusing to DPS is objectively useless in casual content—especially nowadays with tanks boasting incredible self healing. I've solo'd the 87 final boss from 57%. What purpose did the healer serve there if they weren't DPSing? I literally didn't need them. Likewise, I've kept DPS alive through dungeon bosses for a good while.

    If the dev team wants healer DPS to be optional. They need to actually make healers, well, heal. Otherwise, their entire role is pointless.
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    Healing is getting dull for me tbh. I heal in every MMO and game I can but XIV's current state of healing is: BORING.

    Just revamp it so we can DPS more than we heal I guess. You already have every Tank with sustain save for Depressed Knight who got nothing. I'm finally tired of "Healing potency up by %" or "This skill now has a regen!" when you have 3 skills all having the same effect. We now have button bloat because of it.

    I think it's now time for them to add more DPS options for every healer and stop adding the same, boring skill under a new skin
    every expansion. SCH already took a hit because they admitted to not knowing what to do with it...(since they gave everything to SGE and SCH needs a rework imo but I digress kinda.) So yeah lol.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 12-29-2021 at 06:27 PM. Reason: Mobile edits.

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