How often do you change up your hotbars?

[Warpstone]

I'll change them around quite often until I get them the exact way I want them. The more I play the more I find a better way to arrange them, but once I get them right I don't bother them again unless they change stuff.

[Makeda]

My keybinds for FFXIV were more or less set back around 2008 0r 2009 in WoW.

As in, to aid in physical memory, I have been using roughly the same purpose finger presses as I can across many different MMOs. The spot my fingers reach for my main spamable attack is the same here as it is in WoW, ESO, and even League of Legends... My primary location to switch to AoE is the same, my interrupts are in consistent spots, and so on. And then a few details move around here and there because of the number of things different games or classes need me to keybind.

For a while I was playing on a Mac, and I use a Razer Nostromo / Orbweaver / etc keypad - and Razer deleted it's software support for Mac, so I could change any of the keybinds on the pad. So instead all my games had some crazy wild keybinds so that I would be pressing the same same keys as always, across all games, but still able to use a keypad that had no driver support...

(Until the day I learned that a Mac running windows in bootcamp runs faster than a Mac running it's own native OS...)

Now I'm on PC fully and yeah - still using the same basic layout I made for myself more than a decade ago. The less you need to retrain your fingers, the faster you can react.

[Equitable_Remedy]

How often do you change up your hotbars?

I've been using a similar hotbar setup since roughly 2009 when the razer naga came out, so not often. Used that setup in WoW, SWTOR, FF14, etc.

Before that, my EQ hotbar setup (circa 1999) carried into WoW.

#NeverChange

[Hasrat]

But I do regularly change up my menu macro!

Yeah, macros like that are what I need to look into. Maybe for job changing. Might could use one for mark bills. And something else that's slipping my mind..

I think it's the out of combat stuff that's probably naturally easiest to change up.

[Bsrking5]

Never, still have stone skin in hopes it'll return

[NegativeS]

Bro, you can do that? I've been wasting hotbars on gearsets all this time when I could just do this???

[Vahlnir]

When an expansion starts I get things where I want them and they usually stay that way until the next one.

[Michieltjuhh]

I keep to the same keybinds and hotbars I started using in 2007-2008 in WoW, no matter the MMORPG, so long as it's possible (things change slightly in action MMOs, but it follows the same theme). It is incredibly convenient to learn new classes/jobs/games this way, since despite differences in execution of abilities, so long as it's on the correct keybind, I will roughly know what it's going to do. It helps track cooldowns as well, and you'll quickly know the class's weaknesses because certain keybinds will remain empty.

[MilkieTea]

Bro, you can do that? I've been wasting hotbars on gearsets all this time when I could just do this???

mhm! The arrow button is the button to activate the menu, so it sits on hotbar "5":

/hotbar display 6 [on/off]
/hotbar display 7 off
/wait 7 
/hotbar display 6 off

The tank, healer, DPS buttons each swap out class hotbars. For example:

TANK

/hotbar copy MRD 1 current 7
/hotbar display 7 on
/wait 7
/hotbar display 7 off
/hotbar display 6 off

So you'd put all the buttons you need onto MRD hotbar 1 (instead of WAR) and it would copy that hotbar onto "current" hotbar 7. MRD 2 would be healer, MRD 3 would be DPS. Then since I wanted ease of access I switched over to CNJ (instead of WHM) and did the same thing for the emotes, mounts, and minions.

To change job stones, this would be the macro

/micon "Soul of the Paladin" item
/snap
/wait 2
/gs change 1
/wait 2
/hotbar display 7 off
/hotbar display 6 off

micon changes it to the pretty job icon, /snap is just the snap emote. /gs change changes it to gearset 1 (PLD gearset for me). After 2 seconds it turns the menu off so I don't have to manually click anything.

[-Mira-]

Rarely. Sometimes I switch out a few skills as for a less used one for a more frequent.

Am also looking into ways of if I can maybe make some skill button pressing even easier and more efficient as I don’t like to use keyboard (and mouse) but do play controller but sometimes it doesn’t all fit as nicely and do need to switch between most used and less used often press wrong buttons because they are at the same spot of bar 2 (my main fight bar) but I needed something less used from 1 or 3…
Sometimes to dodge or evade you need to throw in a little sprint and that is also out of the way for me.
So I really need something more efficient that works ok with responding smoothly and makes dodge + attack at same time as easy for me as a controller.