So you're telling me..

[Ransu]

I think it's perfectly reasonable theory they rather risk overtuning a new shiny job and fixing it later, than undertuning it and leave it with a reputation as a a weak job. First impressions matter and all.

I don't think they intentionally made it OP, but if you aren't quite sure the balancing will work like you intended in practice, it's smart to lean more in that direction.

I think the reality is covid and their shift to work from home caused balance to be all over the place right now and a general mess, so it doesn't surprise me it looks the way it does. Here's hoping since they have been settled in to their new workflows that they have a good balance figured out for the likely balance patch in 6.05.

[Satarn]

I think the reality is covid and their shift to work from home caused balance to be all over the place right now and a general mess, so it doesn't surprise me it looks the way it does.

Covid what? You're saying it as if this was a special case for XIV's balance. Does nobody remember SHB launch anymore? MNK being way ahead of everyone else, NIN being completely garbo, phys ranged as a whole being so bad not even the 1% main stat buff was worth taking them? This isn't new, dps balance being pretty bad is par for the course with expansion release. They will probably get it in an okay-ish place before second raid tier, as they usually do.

[Wyakin]

What I love about this thread. Arcane crest is still a focus. Please SE, take the nerf hammer to arcane crest. Remove it completely! This is what the people are calling for, it’s for balancing reasons! Reapers healing is too strong for one doing so much damage!

[Evos]

Who knew all the other melee were so difficult to play. Lol self serving arguments can't be taken very serious. Easy or difficult is....say it with me....subjective.

So I'll try it too, and correct me if I'm wrong.

I think all the melees are easy and I mean much easier "now" than in the past. Like.... alot of jobs are easy and they bring at baseline higher damage than in the past. I'm not trying to offend, but really..."it's brain dead and is overpowered" ... hyperbole much.

Anyone remember when rotations and buffs weren't so tailored to having a ninja or a 60s?

Anyone remember holding or consciously planning to line up buffs that were at different cds throughout a fight? How about now? Most jobs are press and go now...unless of course you haven't played previous iterations.

Conclusion....Ahem, leave my reaper alone...please! SE now is the time to continue not listening. I'm having alot of fun atm.

[IruruCece]

Who knew all the other melee were so difficult to play.

I mean that's been the argument from people who have been trying to get positionals removed from all jobs. "Its too hard to land them!" "its too punishing to miss them!" "they dont reward you enough so I ignore them and wonder why I cant beat dps checks on a target dummy!"

[Quintessa]

If any job needs to be looked at it's NIN, nobody ever talks about NIN.

[IruruCece]

If any job needs to be looked at it's NIN, nobody ever talks about NIN.

Plenty of threads on these here forums!

[Kacho_Nacho]

Lot of Reaper salt and darkness in this thread.

LOL! True.

But, I can't figure out why we're having this discussion. Damage meters mean nothing. We aren't supposed to even use them. It's a bannable offense.

Furthermore, your average player doesn't care. They just want to clear the content and have fun.

[Maverick_Haas]

What I love about this thread. Arcane crest is still a focus. Please SE, take the nerf hammer to arcane crest. Remove it completely! This is what the people are calling for, it’s for balancing reasons! Reapers healing is too strong for one doing so much damage!

Actually, looking further into it, MNK's mantra is equal if not absolutely better than Arcane Crest. It's a 10% increased healing to self and nearby members for 15 seconds. It doesn't heal directly, but the increase of healing received is certainly more than 100 potency. Yet, I don't see anyone raging over this and asking for extreme nerfs... Why not? Because Mantra healing numbers do not show up in fflogs like crest does. MNKs don't get credit for the increased healing on fflogs, you would have to look at the individual players and see when Mantra was applied and how much healing was increased then.

So I chalk this up to people not knowing what they are talking about, but still asking for extreme nerfs because they have some notion of what balance is.

[Ramura_Sono]

Actually, looking further into it, MNK's mantra is equal if not absolutely better than Arcane Crest. It's a 10% increased healing to self and nearby members for 15 seconds. It doesn't heal directly, but the increase of healing received is certainly more than 100 potency. Yet, I don't see anyone raging over this and asking for extreme nerfs... Why not? Because Mantra healing numbers do not show up in fflogs like crest does. MNKs don't get credit for the increased healing on fflogs, you would have to look at the individual players and see when Mantra was applied and how much healing was increased then.

So I chalk this up to people not knowing what they are talking about, but still asking for extreme nerfs because they have some notion of what balance is.

For Mantra to equal the value of Arcane Crest, you'd need something like 5000 potency worth of heals going out. It is absolutely not better than Arcane Crest. Arcane Crest is a 500 Potency Heal over it's duration. The HoT ticks once every 3 seconds. so it Ticks for 100 potency 5 times during it's duration.

Arcane Crest is better than Curing Waltz, and other similar partywide defensives that are on much longer cooldowns.
It's heal potency needs to be severely reduced. Likely by 50% or more if it's gonna keep it's 30 second cooldown.