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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Alpha
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    Regarding your opinion that reaper should do less than samurai cause of a 250 heal.
    let me just say that this isn't really my opinion on the matter, at least not necessarely. i do think it has to be taken into account, as much as it is flavor. but i also do think that without it it should be "slightly" above "selfish" classes so in the end in my opinion it should mostly cancel out, if at the end of the day at the 98+ level rpr is 0,5% above or at exactly samurai level i don't care, i'm mostly in the camp of "not arguing for the final 0,5% or so dps" because than we would give an exact value to every kind of utility that is just not feasible.
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    Last edited by Akiudo; 01-06-2022 at 07:35 AM.

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    Tearagi Eruzure
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    I find it funny the one who is talking about people not understanding rDPs, in fact doesn’t understand rDPs.
    Ironic, I understand the metric just fine thanks, keep your SB ramblings to yourself they're not relevant in the slightest.


    Anyway it's clear to me there are differing balance philosophies at play, I'm not asking for SAM to be an indisputable addition in every comp, or even changed at all really. RPR and MNK are clearly overtuned, DRG, NIN, MCH, and DNC are clearly undertuned, and discussions about the average rDPS of a job based on what it offers to the party are clearly not being met on the same level. I have faith in SE to appropriately balance classes.
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    Kazimere Never'gold
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tearagion View Post
    Ironic, I understand the metric just fine thanks, keep your SB ramblings to yourself they're not relevant in the slightest.


    Anyway it's clear to me there are differing balance philosophies at play, I'm not asking for SAM to be an indisputable addition in every comp, or even changed at all really. RPR and MNK are clearly overtuned, DRG, NIN, MCH, and DNC are clearly undertuned, and discussions about the average rDPS of a job based on what it offers to the party are clearly not being met on the same level. I have faith in SE to appropriately balance classes.
    I'm rambling now, eh? Ok buddy. It is relevant, considering you're advocating to go back to that. If that's your position, you're entitled to it, but you are just advocating to flip the proverbial coin over. Good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    I'm rambling now, eh? Ok buddy. It is relevant, considering you're advocating to go back to that. If that's your position, you're entitled to it, but you are just advocating to flip the proverbial coin over. Good job.
    Please learn to read, I'm literally saying I'm not advocating for that in the same post you replied to. You're embarrassing yourself.
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