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    Kazimere's Avatar
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    Kazimere Never'gold
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Scuoll View Post
    Oh i absolutely agree, idk where you got this from.
    In fact in my very first post on the thread you'll see i made the same argument in that reaper taking a slight popularity hit would probably be a good thing for those who are into the fantasy/animation of the class, since it will still probably be the most popular class no matter what, and it would make it more tolerable for those who genuinely enjoy reaper's fantasy instead of the output.
    I am not sure about how many people would quit it if it was nerfed,not unreasonably, but to maybe middle of the pack as the 3rd/4th best melee within a tight margin, like -3% from the number 1 or whatever.

    Its also part of my point of why having a class so overrepresented in its role its probably a bad thing, if you can bring 5 and one is chosen over a third of the time its probably causing issues elsewhere aswell. Ofc i dont want people to stop enjoying it if they like it, but at the same time i also think it actually is not good for the overall game
    It is the 3rd best melee. Sam, Monk, and Reaper are tuned pretty tight in the aDPS department, and that is why you see the tuning being tight in rDPS (1.5-2%). The issue, is that Dragoon and Ninja still seem to be under performing. Like, it's not even close. That's a problem. Their aDPS needs to be brought up to bring them closer in rDPS. That's just how it works.
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    Scuoll Xyz
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    Ragnarok
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    It is the 3rd best melee. Sam, Monk, and Reaper are tuned pretty tight in the aDPS department, and that is why you see the tuning being tight in rDPS (1.5-2%). The issue, is that Dragoon and Ninja still seem to be under performing. Like, it's not even close. That's a problem. Their aDPS needs to be brought up to bring them closer in rDPS. That's just how it works.
    It actually seems that monk reaper and sam are pretty close, but if reaper is not clearly the best one why do all the groups going for world first have one? I really doubt all these players just like it, they mostly play whatever's best for the situation.
    Also yeah it seems even after patch there's more room to buff underperformers, although the graph is nicer than the earlier one https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...=78&dataset=95

    I really dont buy the "reaper is third best" btw, is this another epic troll?
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    Navaro Reverz
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Scuoll View Post
    It actually seems that monk reaper and sam are pretty close, but if reaper is not clearly the best one why do all the groups going for world first have one? I really doubt all these players just like it, they mostly play whatever's best for the situation.
    Also yeah it seems even after patch there's more room to buff underperformers, although the graph is nicer than the earlier one https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...=78&dataset=95

    I really dont buy the "reaper is third best" btw, is this another epic troll?
    Perhaps ease of play. Same reason why a lot of prog groups like WAR.
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    Kazimere Never'gold
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Scuoll View Post
    It actually seems that monk reaper and sam are pretty close, but if reaper is not clearly the best one why do all the groups going for world first have one? I really doubt all these players just like it, they mostly play whatever's best for the situation.
    Also yeah it seems even after patch there's more room to buff underperformers, although the graph is nicer than the earlier one https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...=78&dataset=95

    I really dont buy the "reaper is third best" btw, is this another epic troll?
    No, its the numbers on aDPS. It breaks into second sub 70% and at 99th to max. It is second on rDPS (flexes to 1st sub 50%).
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