So you're telling me..

[Scuoll]

pretty sure he meant performance, not participation. it's clearly overrepresented but really, compared to some of the more extreme overrepresantations in the past this IS fine.

Im genuinely curious about this part, is this normal? In the current raid tier 3/4 dps slots seem hard locked for serious groups (rpr rdm bard), and right now 1 melee has more representation than 3 of them combined, which to me seems less than ideal, was it like this for example in stormblood when samurai just came out? Or in shb with the strongest class? I know back in the day there were weird things going on with raid buffs/debuffs where some classes had more sinergy, i am talking about recent years.

Coming over from wow i heard a lot of people saying the balance is better, but this seems pretty.. solved? Like all high end groups clearly agree that these 3 jobs are more valuable, i wouldnt say its good balance if all your composition building creativity is limited to the 4th slot. I can understand rdm because spammable instant cast rez is actually a unique upside which other classes dont have access to, in this thread we talked a lot about arcane crest but you cant even really quantify how good spammable rez on a dps is.
No clue about bard, and reaper does still have more utility than the other melees, even if it got nerfed its still more than 0 i guess.
Reaper's overall representation is a byproduct of a lot of things for sure, new, flashy, edgy fantasy, whatever, but i think the people going for world first dont care that much about that and just want the best shot at killing the boss fast

Patch notes were in a good direction, but maybe more changes were needed to shake up the rankings more? It would be cool to see more variety even at the top end.

[Akiudo]

Im genuinely curious about this part, is this normal?

yes and it allways will be, but wow would look exactly the same if mythic was 10 man, it's just the nature of aiming for the top, of course you will take the best even if its only marginally better than the rest. imagine losing out on the world first race because the other group took the dps that deals 1% more damage.

[Kazimere]

Im genuinely curious about this part, is this normal? In the current raid tier 3/4 dps slots seem hard locked for serious groups (rpr rdm bard), and right now 1 melee has more representation than 3 of them combined, which to me seems less than ideal, was it like this for example in stormblood when samurai just came out? Or in shb with the strongest class? I know back in the day there were weird things going on with raid buffs/debuffs where some classes had more sinergy, i am talking about recent years.

Coming over from wow i heard a lot of people saying the balance is better, but this seems pretty.. solved? Like all high end groups clearly agree that these 3 jobs are more valuable, i wouldnt say its good balance if all your composition building creativity is limited to the 4th slot. I can understand rdm because spammable instant cast rez is actually a unique upside which other classes dont have access to, in this thread we talked a lot about arcane crest but you cant even really quantify how good spammable rez on a dps is.
No clue about bard, and reaper does still have more utility than the other melees, even if it got nerfed its still more than 0 i guess.
Reaper's overall representation is a byproduct of a lot of things for sure, new, flashy, edgy fantasy, whatever, but i think the people going for world first dont care that much about that and just want the best shot at killing the boss fast

Patch notes were in a good direction, but maybe more changes were needed to shake up the rankings more? It would be cool to see more variety even at the top end.

Bard is crushing Dancer and MCH (to a lesser degree) atm. MCH's aDPS (BRD is substantially behind MCH in aDPS) isn't enough to cover the buffs that BRD brings. Personally, MCH just needs to provide buffs akin to Bard and Dancer. That's just me though, as I'm sure there are plenty who like MCH just pumping numbers.

RDM is usually always brought in at the start of Savage, and then swaps to BLM. That rez is great while people are learning fights. SMN is actually performing close to RDM (2% below in rDPS, 0.6% above in aDPS), but it can't throw out the rezzes like RDM. It also doesn't bring as strong of a buff.

Reaper is actually weaker than monk. It's just far more popular. I'm sure ease of play has something to do with it, but there were also some very good players who swapped to Reaper for EW. DRG and Nin just can't compete with either of them at the moment. That will be adjusted. Of that, I have no doubt. Samurai will always have a place in groups. It's still very strong. Anyone who locks them out is just stupid.

This release has actually been good for balance. It's not perfect, but it's not that bad all things considered. We don't have 10-15% spreads within roles (hello BLM) this go round. Ninja always seems to have this happen. It's like they're the whipping boy for SE.