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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    So give the rest of the melee something. You're argument is weak. You're basically saying that Reaper should do the lowest because it's got a 250p regen for the group and the rest don't. Ain't no one bringing a Reaper to the raid for their shield. It's a cherry on top.

    In the end, you're salty and butt hurt. We get it.
    I think the argument is sound, 40 pages seem to represent I'm not the only one that thinks it's unfair and I may be salty but at least I'm not liar and an obfuscator .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    I think the argument is sound, 40 pages seem to represent I'm not the only one that thinks it's unfair and I may be salty but at least I'm not liar and an obfuscator .
    You're just going to keep running your mouth aren't you? That's the internet for you. For the record, a consensus don't make it right. Like really, are you trying to appeal to the masses as your justification? The masses used to be sure that the earth was flat at one time too. How'd that work out?

    You're arguing that Reaper is over tuned. I provided you numbers that refute that. You then completely ignore the numbers and opt to move the goal post. So tell me, what percentage should Reaper drop because of this game breaking defensive that Reaper has?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    The masses used to be sure that the earth was flat at one time too. How'd that work out?
    so just like the reaper masses saying AC was not overpowered, how'd that work out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    You're arguing that Reaper is over tuned. I provided you numbers that refute that. You then completely ignore the numbers and opt to move the goal post. So tell me, what percentage should Reaper drop because of this game breaking defensive that Reaper has?
    No you haven't, you just compared reaper with monk which is also overtuned and called it balanced, then you compared it with sam and ignored the fact reaper can heal the raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    so just like the reaper masses saying AC was not overpowered, how'd that work out?


    No you haven't, you just compared reaper with monk which is also over tuned and called it balanced, then you compared it with sam and ignored the fact reaper can heal the raid.
    The fuck I did. I didn't even run numbers for monk. I ran them for reaper and samurai. Go look at the damn numbers yourself. I'm not providing them to you. You are like a broken record. You just can't come off the defensive.

    If all you have is my defense of AC being balanced to hold you, you're just noise at this point. I literally told you I was trolling you on multiple occasions. How much more clear do I need to be on that? I get it, I hurt your feelings. Get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    I literally told you I was trolling you on multiple occasions.
    "It doesn't count as a lie if I say it was trolling"
    ok liar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    I think the argument is sound, 40 pages seem to represent I'm not the only one that thinks it's unfair and I may be salty but at least I'm not liar and an obfuscator .
    This you?
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5780917
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    oh hey you're other guy that trolled about AC was not broken for over 20 pages before it took a 50% nerf and then made a 3 full posts explaining how reaper is the hardest job in history
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    oh hey you're other guy that trolled about AC was not broken for over 20 pages before it took a 50% nerf and then made a 3 full posts explaining how reaper is the hardest job in history
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    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5780848
    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    But if you compare RPR with other DPS, notably DNC, it certainly does look like Crest is overtuned. I suspect either DNC will get a buff or RPR will see a slight nerf, probably 100 -> 50 potency if I had to guess.
    Uno reverse card

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    This You? Again?
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5786144
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Weren't you the one that thought AC was a single 100 potency heal and didn't know how damage/heal over time spells worked and said it "MNK's mantra is equal if not absolutely better than Arcane Crest" back in page 11 while defending AC as perfectly balanced utility?
    he clearly made a typo and a 10 second search reveals he plays reaper
    I literally called the nerf and it came true, yet I'm completely biased.

    At least I have the integrity to admit when I'm wrong and apologize with humility. You can't even admit you lied and obscured what I actually said about tuning. A simple my bad is all you needed to say and we could have had a civil discussion.
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    Last edited by Maverick_Haas; 01-07-2022 at 11:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    Page 8
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5780848


    Uno reverse card

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    This You? Again?
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5786144


    I literally called the nerf and it came true, yet I'm completely biased.

    At least I have the integrity to admit when I'm wrong and apologize with humility. You can't even admit you lied and obscured what I actually said about tuning. A simple my bad is all you needed to say and we could have had a civil discussion.
    Oh yeah thanks for reminding me of that you actually didn't know how healing over time even worked
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...05#post5783205
    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    Actually, looking further into it, MNK's mantra is equal if not absolutely better than Arcane Crest. It's a 10% increased healing to self and nearby members for 15 seconds. It doesn't heal directly, but the increase of healing received is certainly more than 100 potency. Yet, I don't see anyone raging over this and asking for extreme nerfs... Why not? Because Mantra healing numbers do not show up in fflogs like crest does. MNKs don't get credit for the increased healing on fflogs, you would have to look at the individual players and see when Mantra was applied and how much healing was increased then.

    So I chalk this up to people not knowing what they are talking about, but still asking for extreme nerfs because they have some notion of what balance is.
    You unironically and with a straight face said mantra was better than prenerf (50% nerf btw (not extreme btw)) AC in an attempt to defend it after you "admitted" it might need "adjustments" (but not an extreme nerf btw) like a snake in the grass you wanted to say it was busted but then came back to defend it vs mantra.
    lol
    lmao even
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    Last edited by ZiraZ; 01-07-2022 at 11:38 AM. Reason: lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Oh yeah thanks for reminding me of that you actually didn't know how healing over time even worked
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...05#post5783205


    You unironically and with a straight face said mantra was better than prenerf (50% nerf btw (not extreme btw)) AC in an attempt to defend it after you "admitted" it might need "adjustments" (but not an extreme nerf btw) like a snake in the grass.
    lol
    lmao even
    Yes, I made a mistake, but neither was I being completely biased and saying AC shouldn't be nerfed. It's very clear to everyone that you are gas lighting.

    You literally put words in my mouth that I don't say.
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