So you're telling me..

[Akiudo]

lol

well one of these days you will say something that is not a complete lie, just a matter of time

pretty sure he meant performance, not participation. it's clearly overrepresented but really, compared to some of the more extreme overrepresantations in the past this IS fine.

mind you theres no reason for reaper with actual group support, (i.e. the heal, not dps buffs) to be over samurai without a group heal.

However, theres also no reason a class with dps buffs (purely talking dps buffs) can't offer equal raid dps compared to a "selfish" class, if anything if a class with raid dps buffs didn't actually offer higher RAID dps than the selfish class than having raid dps buffs in the first place would be a detriment. why use a class that does 10k and buffs the group for 500 if you can just take a class that does 11k by itself ?

[Kazimere]

lol

well one of these days you will say something that is not a complete lie, just a matter of time

Which part is the lie, Zira? When I looked last night, Sage was sitting at 31% and SCH at 19%. Regardless, a 9% difference is pretty substantial. Trying to argue that Reaper has a 41% representation because it's overpowered is disingenuous. It has a 41% representation because everyone and their mom is playing Reaper, and they have been since EW release. I gave you the numbers on what the spread is and you still want to argue, even though those numbers paint a far different picture than what your opinion is.

Having said that. Don't call me a liar again. I may be mistaken from time to time, but I do not lie.

[Kazimere]

pretty sure he meant performance, not participation. it's clearly overrepresented but really, compared to some of the more extreme overrepresantations in the past this IS fine.

mind you theres no reason for reaper (with actual group support, i.e. the heal, not dps buffs) to be over samurai without a group heal.

However, theres also no reason a class with dps buffs (purely talking dps buffs) can't offer equal raid dps compared to a "selfish" class, if anything if a class with raid dps buffs didn't actually offer higher RAID dps than the selfish class than having raid dps buffs in the first place would be a detriment. why use a class that does 10k and buffs the group for 500 if you can just take a class that does 11k by itself ?

She knows exactly what I meant. She's grasping at straws, or trying to move the goal post. I'm whatever about it. I trolled her a few days ago.

[Ransu]

pretty sure he meant performance, not participation. it's clearly overrepresented but really, compared to some of the more extreme overrepresantations in the past this IS fine.

mind you theres no reason for reaper with actual group support, (i.e. the heal, not dps buffs) to be over samurai without a group heal.

However, theres also no reason a class with dps buffs (purely talking dps buffs) can't offer equal raid dps compared to a "selfish" class, if anything if a class with raid dps buffs didn't actually offer higher RAID dps than the selfish class than having raid dps buffs in the first place would be a detriment. why use a class that does 10k and buffs the group for 500 if you can just take a class that does 11k by itself ?

Its over represented because its basically mandatory to have one in a prog group right now. RPR is over tuned and is doing way too much dps.

[Kazimere]

I mean true, but there's popular and there's "basically impossible to find high end groups without one", it's a bit hand wavey, monk's strong and popular but plenty of groups are not running one, even those at least of those available on twitch, the world first group for the last boss of the tier didnt have one, they had a black mage as a 4th slot.

Outside the people going for world first and early clears its still really popular, if im reading that graph right only 10% of groups dont have a reaper, that doesnt seem good when you have 4 other melee jobs, what did these numbers look like in previous expansions? I'd imagine samurai was the previously most popular class but this seems a bit excessive, its got a higher play rate than ninja + dragoon + samurai

I can't say what the representation for Samurai was in SB. I feel like I saw them everywhere though, but that is subjective. Reaper has been over represented since release. It's the new kid on the block and it actually does solid numbers (iirc, Samurai wasn't doing so well at SB release). Regarding finding a group if you aren't a Reaper. I think the opposite is true. It's is damn near impossible to find a group as a reaper (static or PF) since there are so many. I know I'm going to struggle to the point that I will probably just start my own groups to run Savage. It's that bad on Primal.

[ZiraZ]

However, theres also no reason a class with dps buffs (purely talking dps buffs) can't offer equal raid dps compared to a "selfish" class, if anything if a class with raid dps buffs didn't actually offer higher RAID dps than the selfish class than having raid dps buffs in the first place would be a detriment. why use a class that does 10k and buffs the group for 500 if you can just take a class that does 11k by itself ?

That's fine the problem is when utility exists and the jobs with utility are still over the ones with zero utility, on the surface jobs like reaper and sam should do similar rDPS but then there should be an utility tax on top of that because reaper can shield themselves and heal the party, even after it's 50% nerf (lol) it's extremely good regardless of whatever the clowns in this forum say, I mean it's pretty obvious the ninja community has agreed there is absolutely no point in playing that job and it's basically dead in the water now, like I don't remember a job being this dead for this long now even after a small redesign patch, why play something that offers nothing and complexity that is heavily punished when you could instead play the autopilot job that has a better shade shift that heals the raid?

[Kazimere]

Its over represented because its basically mandatory to have one in a prog group right now. RPR is over tuned and is doing way too much dps.

You're like a broken record at this point. 1.5-2% on top in rDPS isn't over tuned. 2-3% behind in aDPS isn't over tuned. It's literally fourth on aDPS and second on rDPS.

[ZiraZ]

Which part is the lie, Zira? When I looked last night, Sage was sitting at 31% and SCH at 19%. Regardless, a 9% difference is pretty substantial. Trying to argue that Reaper has a 41% representation because it's overpowered is disingenuous. It has a 41% representation because everyone and their mom is playing Reaper, and they have been since EW release. I gave you the numbers on what the spread is and you still want to argue, even though those numbers paint a far different picture than what your opinion is.

Having said that. Don't call me a liar again. I may be mistaken from time to time, but I do not lie.

sorry but you called AC balanced several times in multiple posts and defended it even in additional posts even after people posted irrefutable evidence that it was broken and then got the biggest nerf in the 0.5 history of the game, that makes you a troll (you even admitted that), a liar and so wrong that everything you say basically means nothing anymore

[Kazimere]

That's fine the problem is when utility exists and the jobs with utility are still over the ones with zero utility, on the surface jobs like reaper and sam should do similar rDPS but then there should be an utility tax on top of that because reaper can shield themselves and heal the party, even after it's 50% nerf (lol) it's extremely good regardless of whatever the clowns in this forum say, I mean it's pretty obvious the ninja community has agreed there is absolutely no point in playing that job and it's basically dead in the water now, like I don't remember a job being this dead for this long now even after a small redesign patch, why play something that offers nothing and complexity that is heavily punished when you could instead play the autopilot job that has a better shade shift that heals the raid?

So give the rest of the melee something. You're argument is weak. You're basically saying that Reaper should do the lowest because it's got a 250p regen for the group and the rest don't. Ain't no one bringing a Reaper to the raid for their shield. It's a cherry on top.

In the end, you're salty and butt hurt. We get it.

[Kazimere]

sorry but you called AC balanced several times in multiple posts and defended it even in additional posts even after people posted irrefutable evidence that it was broken and then got the biggest nerf in the 0.5 history of the game, that makes you a troll (you even admitted that), a liar and so wrong that everything you say basically means nothing anymore

It don't make me a liar. It makes me trolling, which I self admitted to. I knew it was going to get nerfed. Keep trying to discredit me, but you're going to just keep losing. Keep up the salt. I love it.