So you're telling me..

[Kolsykol]

My frustrations with calls for nerfs stems from this. We know it was meant to compete or be close to SAM. But because it's seemingly the easiest DPS job, it should be nerfed. But we also know for a fact that SE doesn't balanced on ease to play, or at the very least it is what they claim.

If we are worried that RPR is too easy to be considered close to SAM, why don't we call for it to get more difficult? Not asking to redesign the loop, but perhaps having DD harder to execute at certain times during our combos. I dunno, for me it's hard to gauge difficulty from a gameplay point of view. I can agree it's more forgiving, but despite that it can still feel tight on bursts when you take into account fight mechs and a 40-60 second burst phase.

Wait how do we '' know '' this?
RPR is not a selfish DPS...
If the rest of the other Jobs are to go on which I don't see why we wouldn't then RPR is a utility DPS Job and should be on the level of DRG or MNK ( and MNK is too high too ).
Where exactly are you guys getting this idea from that it's meant to be up there with SAM?

I keep seeing people throw this out and I dunno what exactly people are basing this on...
This whole argument about ease of play is completely pointless to try and argue against too the logs show what they show, yes it is completely fair to say that RPR is objectively easier.
That doesn't mean that individuals might not disagree but the stats show what they show.

[MagiusNecros]

Because enshroud attacks are 1.5 gcds. That would open a can of worms for a few reasons and would be a headache for SE in the end.

Eh by 7.0 there won't be any positionals left. Too hard after all.

Just saying if you want to make Reaper more difficult that would be a way of doing it.

When I play Monk I still do pos due to muscle memory.

Yoshi P's design with Reaper being overtuned is he wanted the job to have impact and I believe that's why the potencies are very strong for a mostly braindead job.

The only nuance of skill you really need is committing to your Soul Reaver stacks(I like this) and keeping Heavy Thrust up.

Pos are really a non-issue with True North which makes me feel like positionals aren't required at all.

The big complaint the vocal minority here has on Reaper is that it has high DPS with Utility attached as well whereas BLM/SAM do not. Thus. Outrage.

If I have any personal complaints on Reaper myself it's that Harvest Moon is niche and can be overlooked in favor of Harpe spam.

Edit: Monk is top tier too. And that Thunderclap dash is sexy as fuck. So good. People don't like Monk/Reaper putting in work and making those BLM/SAM salty. And making NIN/DRG underwhelming.

[Wyakin]

Wait how do we '' know '' this?
RPR is not a selfish DPS...
If the rest of the other Jobs are to go on which I don't see why we wouldn't then RPR is a utility DPS Job and should be on the level of DRG or MNK ( and MNK is too high too ).
Where exactly are you guys getting this idea from that it's meant to be up there with SAM?

I keep seeing people throw this out and I dunno what exactly people are basing this on...
This whole argument about ease of play is completely pointless to try and argue against too the logs show what they show, yes it is completely fair to say that RPR is objectively easier.
That doesn't mean that individuals might not disagree but the stats show what they show.

How is reaper not a selfish dps? Just because it had a 3% two minute CD that yields less raid dps than every other raid cool down in the game? That makes them some kinda support job? I assure you I do not press that button for you. I press it to get PH. Jeezus it is time to change your approach to what should and shouldn’t be doing good dps. Its been stated this job would be deal high dps on par or beating samurai. Here we are, that future came true. Let’s enjoy being everything DRK wishes they were

[IruruCece]

Let’s enjoy being everything DRK wishes they were

A good tank that is visually appealing and doesn't have a terribly implemented invuln that players have been complaining about in every language native to the territories this game is playable in?

[Wyakin]

A good tank that is visually appealing and doesn't have a terribly implemented invuln that players have been complaining about in every language native to the territories this game is playable in?

More aimed at what dark knight was in games like 11. An actual dps that uses its soul and such to increase damage.

[Ketsufuma]

More aimed at what dark knight was in games like 11. An actual dps that uses its soul and such to increase damage.

ah i miss tho days of draining x3 but reaper is almost bringing me back to that nostalgic feel.

[ThorneDynasty]

How is reaper not a selfish dps? Just because it had a 3% two minute CD that yields less raid dps than every other raid cool down in the game?

Yes. That's literally what a selfish DPS means. Good job figuring it out.

[Ransu]

Actually reaper is meant to be competing with SAM on DPS. No surprise that there were no dps nerfs, since it is currently competing with SAM already.

Then give SAM a raid buff. None of the melee should be competing with SAM. If they were then it defeats the entire point of SAM being a selfish DPS. RPR not getting a huge potency nerf is ridiculous.

[Navnav]

Eh by 7.0 there won't be any positionals left. Too hard after all.

It's not about that, it will be about players with high ping, etc. Believe it or not, most players don't find positionals hard, they just find it annoying.

Kinda like nutella, we are all able to consume, but you either love it or hate it.

[Misutoraru]

It's not about that, it will be about players with high ping, etc. Believe it or not, most players don't find positionals hard, they just find it annoying.

Kinda like nutella, we are all able to consume, but you either love it or hate it.

+1
Never found positional hard, always able to run to the right positional inbetween GCD and if I have to avoid AOE, 2 charge of true north are always handy.

I do found it annoying when our Tank putting the boss in awkward position like only tiny gap between the boss and the edge of the arena. or some boss that will target each party member and keep turning all the time.