So you're telling me..

[Scuoll]

What are the standards you are going by to sat anything is “objectively” more powerful? You like to throw that word around as if it makes you right. What is to say that, objectively, Reaper isn’t fine tuned and everyone else is underperforming?

Oh, and AC isn’t OP, nor is reaper crushing anything.

If 1 thing is out of line compared to the rest, it makes more sense to bring that closer to the pack than to move everything else, but even if that was the case, the end result wouldnt change? If they buff everything else or nerf reaper, end result is probably the same, except one is harder to do since it requires more changes.

It mainly depends on what you are going up against, and given the difficulty of current content id say its more likely reaper is overtuned but honestly whatever, the whole argument doesnt make sense, by your own logic there is no way to tell what "fine tuned" means for anyone, so why bother bringing it up?

And if arcane crest isnt overpowered in the current state, whats shade shift or third eye?

[Kolsykol]

If 1 thing is out of line compared to the rest, it makes more sense to bring that closer to the pack than to move everything else, but even if that was the case, the end result wouldnt change? If they buff everything else or nerf reaper, end result is probably the same, except one is harder to do since it requires more changes.

It mainly depends on what you are going up against, and given the difficulty of current content id say its more likely reaper is overtuned but honestly whatever, the whole argument doesnt make sense, by your own logic there is no way to tell what "fine tuned" means for anyone, so why bother bringing it up?

And if arcane crest isnt overpowered in the current state, whats shade shift or third eye?

My concern with buffing too much is that it's essentially in effect a nerf to content.
A lot of synced content in particular is already suffering because of this, so I'd rather see nerfs than buffs tbh.

Higher numbers are fun and all but I think that it can also do harm to the content.

[Kazimere]

If 1 thing is out of line compared to the rest, it makes more sense to bring that closer to the pack than to move everything else, but even if that was the case, the end result wouldnt change? If they buff everything else or nerf reaper, end result is probably the same, except one is harder to do since it requires more changes.

It mainly depends on what you are going up against, and given the difficulty of current content id say its more likely reaper is overtuned but honestly whatever, the whole argument doesnt make sense, by your own logic there is no way to tell what "fine tuned" means for anyone, so why bother bringing it up?

And if arcane crest isnt overpowered in the current state, whats shade shift or third eye?

My point, is that people in the community put arbitrary standards on things, based off what they “think” things should be, and then start slapping buzzwords like “objective” onto things, as if that fallacy gives their argument more weight. They have no idea, and id be fine with that if they’d just accept that this whole argument is merely opinions, and those things are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they all stink.

I honestly don’t care if reaper gets nerfed, because I can just go play something else if it’s not allowed to be brought in. Hell, I have to do that right now with all the reapers running around anyway, and I main reaper. However, this notion that it’s over performing is false. It’s literally not top in aDPS (which is what matters for reaper), and it’s not top on rDPS. Maybe people just need to learn to play samurai or monk better, cause both of them can beat reaper. Monk most of all.

If reaper has any issue, it’s that its floor and ceiling are too close.

[IruruCece]

If reaper has any issue, it’s that its floor and ceiling are too close.

So you're saying it's too easy?

[Kazimere]

So you're saying it's too easy?

Nice try. You’re conflating ease with forgiveness. I don’t think easy or hard is a determination of hierarchy. That’s something you think matters, so you can feel good about yourself in a pixelated universe.

Having said that. Reaper is easy. Just like all the other melee are easy from an execution standpoint. How many times does this have to be said? The skill representation for melee is in maintaining uptime.

[Kolsykol]

My point, is that people in the community put arbitrary standards on things, based off what they “think” things should be, and then start slapping buzzwords like “objective” onto things, as if that fallacy gives their argument more weight. They have no idea, and id be fine with that if they’d just accept that this whole argument is merely opinions, and those things are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they all stink.

I honestly don’t care if reaper gets nerfed, because I can just go play something else if it’s not allowed to be brought in. Hell, I have to do that right now with all the reapers running around anyway, and I main reaper. However, this notion that it’s over performing is false. It’s literally not top in aDPS (which is what matters for reaper), and it’s not top on rDPS. Maybe people just need to learn to play samurai or monk better, cause both of them can beat reaper. Monk most of all.

If reaper has any issue, it’s that its floor and ceiling are too close.

*Complains about buzzwords, uses buzzwords like '' arbitrary '' even tho it's not and people have already explained their reasoning and shown data to support what they're saying multiple times.*

Nice try. You’re conflating ease with forgiveness.

Generally I'd say that the two goes hand in hand...
Just take the L lol, I am not even convinced that you believe what you're saying either that or you're trolling.

[ZiraZ]

My point, is that people in the community put arbitrary standards on things, based off what they “think” things should be, and then start slapping buzzwords like “objective” onto things, as if that fallacy gives their argument more weight. They have no idea, and id be fine with that if they’d just accept that this whole argument is merely opinions, and those things are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they all stink.

I honestly don’t care if reaper gets nerfed, because I can just go play something else if it’s not allowed to be brought in. Hell, I have to do that right now with all the reapers running around anyway, and I main reaper. However, this notion that it’s over performing is false. It’s literally not top in aDPS (which is what matters for reaper), and it’s not top on rDPS. Maybe people just need to learn to play samurai or monk better, cause both of them can beat reaper. Monk most of all.

If reaper has any issue, it’s that its floor and ceiling are too close.

This is the most dunning kruger post I've read in these forums.

[Kazimere]

This is the most dunning kruger post I've read in these forums.

Literally don’t care what you think. That’s the beauty of forums.

[ZiraZ]

Literally don’t care what you think. That’s the beauty of forums.

Just please don't stop posting, I come here to laugh at your posts

[Kazimere]

Just please don't stop posting, I come here to laugh at your posts

And I come here to troll you.