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    Zira Zira
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    What I don't understand is if you think crest is so strong, then why not advocate for nerfing it to be more on par with what MNK has, instead of wanting to nerf the whole job in itself. I'm not talking about not tuning at all, of course, but most people's reasoning for nerfing RPR to lowest "melee" dps is because of crest? Makes no sense to me and feels very overreaching. If crest was removed, would their DPS output be more acceptable?
    Because the whole job is busted, it's not just one thing, you can't just nerf AC and leave the job doing the damage it's doing
    and I don't recall anyone saying reaper should be the lowest dps in the game, just the lowest melee dps if AC remains as strong as it is

    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    Also, crest is one of the weakest regen abilities, only beating fairy whispering dawn, not to mention is very situational with a 30sec recast time, where as medica2 can be recast immediately after the 15s duration. Not saying it shouldn't be tuned, but it's asinine to claim that it's putting healers out of a job.
    healers don't usually spam spells to keep 100% uptime on the HoTs or shields what are you even talking about?
    healers basically only use 1 gcd per regular burst of damage and then combine it with oGCDs to lose as little dmg uptime as possible, having a reaper with AC means the healers don't even have to cast anything most of the time
    yes that's very very strong the fact you can't understand how strong that is troubling
    this makes it the only melee in the game capable of covering heals for another role in the trifecta, possibly all jobs and not only melee since the dnc heal requires far more coordination to pull off and has double the cooldown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    RPR should not be the lowest melee DPS. Everything about this job screams DEAL DAMAGE. It's class identity, transforming into a void sent and dealing a ton of damage, would feel completely underwhelming if it hits like a wet noodle. If you're not a fan of class identity or want to be more realistic with your approach, then RPR's whole kit is designed around having a 40 - 60 second burst phase (double or triple enshroud). Circle gives a 3% damage buff, but most importantly it gives us the resource we need to use PF which enables us to do these long burst phases. I'll be honest and admit that I'm not sure if NIN and DRG has such a long burst phase and set up requirements (although lvl 80 DRG didn't seem have any issue with getting it's burst phase which was maybe a 15-20sec burst iirc). But I guarantee you RPR will become a laugh that it has to do a long burst phase in order to do more DPS than ranged variants
    Weren't you the one saying it's ok for sam/blm to perform worse because it's all about playstyle and theming?
    that's kind of hypocritical to then say that can't apply to reaper just because it's special and above the other jobs for arbitrary reasons
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    Last edited by ZiraZ; 01-01-2022 at 02:39 AM.