So you're telling me..

[Kazimere]

They should be outright the top of all melee considering the only thing they do is dps and bring zero utility. Reaper being able to not only keep up, but out perform them in most fights makes bringing a SAM into a fight pointless. The same applies to MNK imo. RPR and MNK both are overperforming.

They are outright top dps, in the bracket that gauges that: aDPS. Reaper, monk, drg, and nin should be outperforming samurai in rdps. It's a problem that only monk and reaper do at the moment. The fact that Samurai was beating everyone in rDPS and aDPS in StB is a problem and it was broken. If you're only defense is that they bring nothing else to the table except for dps, then you're going to need a stronger argument.

[Navnav]

So they nerfed the one thing that didn't actually matter. Gotta say, bravo SE.
AC didn't mean anything anyway, not to anyone with some sense. I would call the reaper change an uno reverse move by square and I love it lol.

[Kitkat]

I won't go as far as to say the stat squish was a bad idea. The problem is that on top of the stat squish they decided to do potency nerfs to a lot of jobs as well that weren't entirely necessary.

[MagiusNecros]

Could put positional requirements on Enshroud attacks. Kinda backwards thinking to put pos on 2 attacks and then say yeah you don't need those in Enshroud.

[Navnav]

Could put positional requirements on Enshroud attacks. Kinda backwards thinking to put pos on 2 attacks and then say yeah you don't need those in Enshroud.

Because enshroud attacks are 1.5 gcds. That would open a can of worms for a few reasons and would be a headache for SE in the end.

[MagiusNecros]

Because enshroud attacks are 1.5 gcds. That would open a can of worms for a few reasons and would be a headache for SE in the end.

Eh by 7.0 there won't be any positionals left. Too hard after all.

Just saying if you want to make Reaper more difficult that would be a way of doing it.

When I play Monk I still do pos due to muscle memory.

Yoshi P's design with Reaper being overtuned is he wanted the job to have impact and I believe that's why the potencies are very strong for a mostly braindead job.

The only nuance of skill you really need is committing to your Soul Reaver stacks(I like this) and keeping Heavy Thrust up.

Pos are really a non-issue with True North which makes me feel like positionals aren't required at all.

The big complaint the vocal minority here has on Reaper is that it has high DPS with Utility attached as well whereas BLM/SAM do not. Thus. Outrage.

If I have any personal complaints on Reaper myself it's that Harvest Moon is niche and can be overlooked in favor of Harpe spam.

Edit: Monk is top tier too. And that Thunderclap dash is sexy as fuck. So good. People don't like Monk/Reaper putting in work and making those BLM/SAM salty. And making NIN/DRG underwhelming.

[Navnav]

Eh by 7.0 there won't be any positionals left. Too hard after all.

It's not about that, it will be about players with high ping, etc. Believe it or not, most players don't find positionals hard, they just find it annoying.

Kinda like nutella, we are all able to consume, but you either love it or hate it.

[Wyakin]

Wait how do we '' know '' this?
RPR is not a selfish DPS...
If the rest of the other Jobs are to go on which I don't see why we wouldn't then RPR is a utility DPS Job and should be on the level of DRG or MNK ( and MNK is too high too ).
Where exactly are you guys getting this idea from that it's meant to be up there with SAM?

I keep seeing people throw this out and I dunno what exactly people are basing this on...
This whole argument about ease of play is completely pointless to try and argue against too the logs show what they show, yes it is completely fair to say that RPR is objectively easier.
That doesn't mean that individuals might not disagree but the stats show what they show.

How is reaper not a selfish dps? Just because it had a 3% two minute CD that yields less raid dps than every other raid cool down in the game? That makes them some kinda support job? I assure you I do not press that button for you. I press it to get PH. Jeezus it is time to change your approach to what should and shouldn’t be doing good dps. Its been stated this job would be deal high dps on par or beating samurai. Here we are, that future came true. Let’s enjoy being everything DRK wishes they were

[IruruCece]

Let’s enjoy being everything DRK wishes they were

A good tank that is visually appealing and doesn't have a terribly implemented invuln that players have been complaining about in every language native to the territories this game is playable in?

[ThorneDynasty]

How is reaper not a selfish dps? Just because it had a 3% two minute CD that yields less raid dps than every other raid cool down in the game?

Yes. That's literally what a selfish DPS means. Good job figuring it out.